Discussion in 'Personal News' started by ib12fish, Jan 23, 2013.
i'm a 17 year infantryman with 44 mos of combat and 3 BSMs.....you want female infantry Soldiers for some grandiose social experiment? fine, make them. but make it an all female cohort battalion. female bn cdr and bn csm all the way down to the lowliest private. same standards as a men's unit but segregated. hell the idea scares the hell out of me, what do you do when your being attacked by a battalion of infantrywomen all on the same cycle!!!! pms airborne infantry regiment!!!! "BLOOD FROM THE SKY"!!!!!
She would pull her shit down and piss in a bottle just like the male Marine did.
This had to be repeated!!!!
Time to invest in Go-Girl's!!!
You must of met my motherinlaw!
CAMP GEIGER, N.C. Four female Marines have passed what is considered the most strenuous aspect of enlisted infantry training, prompting officials here at the Marine Corps School of Infantry East to surmise that at least some of the 15 women who began the course in September will graduate next month.
The women are assigned to Delta Company, part of the Infantry Training Battalion to which all prospective grunts are shipped after they complete boot camp. They are the first group of enlisted women to conduct such training as part of the services ongoing research to determine what additional ground combat jobs may lift gender restrictions.
New female Marine officers have been allowed to enroll in infantry training since last year, but as yet none has passed that course, which is considered among the U.S. militarys most arduous.
Given the performance of female Marines with Delta Company, there is a high probability that some will be standing in formation at graduation, said Col. Jeffrey Conner, SOI-Easts commanding officer.
The key test came Monday, when seven women and 246 men stepped off at 3 a.m. for a 12½-mile hike. Three women and 26 men were unable to complete it, said Staff Sgt. Billy Shinhault, an instructor here.
Marines who failed to complete the hike will be given another opportunity. Two of the three women who failed the hike intend to try again while one elected to drop out of ITB and report to her non-infantry military occupational school. Because they volunteered for the research, the female Marines here at ITB are allowed to back out at any time.
All seven female Marines have successfully completed the first phase of training, which teaches basic combat skills. Monday marked the start of phase two, in which Marines concentrate on learning the necessary skills to become riflemen or to obtain another infantry occupational specialty.
These women are working towards completing the 0311-specific curriculum.
And although there are more tests ahead, Mondays hike represented the courses last significant physical challenge. The only potential hurdle remaining, Conner said, is a final Physical Fitness Test. To pass it, the women will have to perform pullups as the men do.
Starting Jan. 1, pullups will be required for all female Marines conducting their annual PFT. Thats a new requirement. Heretofore, women executed a flexed-arm hang as a test of upper body strength. As part of this research, however, officials have stressed that women will be held to the same standard as men.
Beyond the women assigned to Delta Company, another 13 female Marines began infantry training Oct. 15 with ITBs Echo Company. After two weeks, 10 of the 13 remain with that unit. Another class is set to begin Tuesday, although the number of women who volunteered was not yet finalized, officials said.
The testing at ITB is part of a wider study across the Defense Department to analyze the impacts and feasibility of opening more combat roles to women. Last year numerous billets in combat units were opened to women, but jobs that would place them in direct combat roles remain closed.
Women who complete ITB successfully will not be assigned to an infantry unit, said Lt. Col. David Wallis.
For now, direct combat roles in the Marine Corps remain closed to them, but that could change.
The FY 12 National Defense Authorization Act required the services to provide a review of laws, policies and regulations restricting the service of women in the Armed Forces, said Capt. Geraldine Carey, the SOI-East public affairs offiver. The SecDef subsequently rescinded the 1994 Direct Ground Combat Assignment Restriction regarding assignment of women on January 24, 2013. The services have until January 1, 2016 to fully integrate women or request an exception to policy for certain MOSs.
But those who pass ITB will receive credit in their official personnel files.
You're right, they will be known as "Crunts"...
Rest assured, Jennifer Aniston ain't walking through that door.
And, for the update: 4 of the women passed basic infantry.
The rules had to be relaxed for them to make it; they rucked with less weight. They had to perform only 4 modified pull ups to pass the physical test.
In short, to make it PC, they are sending lesser soldiers out to front line duties, for which they are NOT qualified.
Add to this, the pressure which will be placed on the infantry soldiers stationed with them; the brass will be HEAVY on the men to stay gentlemen, and to tone down everything that makes front line fighters- well, front line fighters. Furthermore, in the case of soldier protections, every man in front line combat will be placed in extra jeopardy because of the natural chivalry and sense of male protection that is in our genetics. More soldiers will wind up taking more risks due to this single factor than all other things.
And, in the case of POW's, our SAR, SF will have far greater expectations upon them to retrieve these 'lost jewels' of the Corps. And, this will make political bargaining a much, much more complicated issue. Our position of not negotiating for hostages will be very heavily complicated when it's little Mary Infantry whom they have captured.
We are going to regret this someday. We are going to really, really regret this.
A friend does training for Army Rangers Special Ops. I asked him about this while we were having a wrenching party on my son's diesel Suburban. He said they had on woman make it through the Rangers, but they had to severely cut back the physical tests.
Do you have a source regarding the different standards. As far as I can tell you are misinformed.
"The three completed the 59-day course and met the same test standards as the men, said Marine Corps spokeswoman Capt. Geraldine Carey."
If the Federal Government really believed in this, they would make it mandatory for women to register with the Selective Service at 18 years of age like men.
Women will always have options.
They are smarter than men.
I wrote to Senator Diane Feinstein about keeping us out of the Syrian civil war.
She promptly wrote back that she knew more about the subject than I did and she was pro war against the Syrian regime.
Just seeing the few press photos showing women with full heads of hair is a little disheartening. I support having women in combat arms by the way, it just needs to be same standards. This photo shows a pretty tidy hair ball an the back of this WM.
Next thing you know, chicks are gunna want to vote for representation and drive automobiles in public.
And be seem in public without Burkas.
And not take everything in the divorce...
Served 8 years, Army Infantry.
If this is true (heard the same as well) you are spot on. Bummer to see us field a lesser force just to be PC. I always believed the standards for infantry MOS's were too easy, even for males. I would still be enlisted if not for that.
I KNOW they have a new set of standards as far as hair. How is that "equal?"
The testing standards should be the same for both men and women. I would not want to see ANYONE's life risked due to someone not able to meet the physical demands required for this job. This can be a matter of life or death. It is a known fact that men can be physically stronger. I do realize that there are some pretty tough ladies out there who are much stronger than some men. The standards need to be the same for all. If they can't pass the test, then they are out, plain and simple. It's not discrimination in my view, it's about putting your best out there to protect each other.
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