wind on leader and fluorocarbon questions

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  1. ninjastar

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    1-How many days have you guys used wind on leaders with or without having a big fight on them(mono or fluorocarbon)?

    1A-If 1 is a no, does using saltway or freshwater rise make it okay??

    2-Do you guys change top shots/fluorocarbon leaders after every trip??

    3-Does iincreasing the mono/fluorocarbon legnth within the hollow core increase brake failure or chances of comming undone if the serve is broken?

    4-Does liquor/beer affect fluorocarbon/mono??
     
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    4...sounds like it's affected something...
     
  3. ninjastar

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    hahahahaha
     
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    How long does the fluoro or braid sit on the shelf before it's sold? Has anyone found an expiration or a use by date on any line?
     
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    the answer is always # 4
     
  7. reellady

    reellady I'd rather be catching TUNA

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    1. 1
    2. no
    3. no
    4. ? never done it, don't know
     
  8. Yellowtail Dan

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    Before I leave on a trip heading South I. Ike to marinate my top shots in tequila or Pacifico. I think the fish swimming in Mexican waters gravitate to those flavors. When I fish local I use Coors Light
     
  9. Amadeus

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    4. if it works and costs less than Uni-butter...different strokes for different folks.
     
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    1-How many days have you guys used wind on leaders with or without having a big fight on them(mono or fluorocarbon)? I replace after every tough fish or if there was some other possible damage. Usually I cut off 6' of fluoro after every fish and use it until they get too short or milky-looking. I also like to start the day with a fresh leader if it looks worn-out by the end of the day.

    1A-If 1 is a no, does using saltaway or freshwater rise make it okay?? No, it does not help. Freshwater rinsing is helpful to get salt off your line and reel, but I do not like using salt-removal chemicals on my line or reels. I use loop to loop leaders so I can reuse them if they caught no fish. I take it off the reel and rinse them in freshwater on the boat and soak them overnight in freshwater when I get home. Works for hooks too!

    2-Do you guys change top shots/fluorocarbon leaders after every trip?? Yes! Rinse your reels thoroughly in freshwater, but do not leave fluorocarbon or mono lines over spectra on your reels after a trip. The plastic lines block moisture evaporating from your spectra and assists corrosion of your spool! If the spool is metal...

    3-Does increasing the mono/fluorocarbon length within the hollow core increase break failure or chances of coming undone if the serve is broken? Probably not. We usually test insertion length to see if longer insertion are stronger and less prone to slipping. Once insertion length is beyond 18" it probably does not make a huge difference with a served connection. Going too long does make the spectra over fluoro section move through the water strangely causing more drag on the bait (once the fluoro has acquired a spool curl).

    4-Does liquor/beer affect fluorocarbon/mono?? Hah, it does if you are drinking it! Just like fishing, when it comes to the effects of alcohol...the situation is everything. :rolleyes:

    - Jeff Burroughs
     
  11. ninjastar

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    Well with number 4, what had happen was I had a couple bottles that happend to open and spilled all over all of my fluorocarbon. xP
     
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    Thanks Jeff for a really great, comprehensive answer. I was totally incapable of answering 1-3 as I went straight to #4 to do some testing of that theory, and you can guess the rest.
     
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    Fluorocarbon polymers are used in the most harsh conditions. Seals in machinery with high wear components, caustic compounds, fuels or solvents being present. Depending on the application the fluorocarbon can be produced to withstand a wide range of temperatures.

    I have been told by a product manager of one of the largest mono/fluoro manufacturers that fluorocarbon fishing line has a very long shelf life. Sunlight, fluorescent light and swings in temperature have little effect on the line.

    Monofilament is quite the opposite. Sunlight, temperature and fluorescent light all have negative effects on the shelf life of the product.

    I reuse my leaders often. Catching multiple fish on them many times including cows.
     
  15. Bill W

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    Thanks John... Spot on. If fluorocarbon needs anything a good stretch can get the kinks out. A good fish can do that, or you can use the trolling straps on the boat. Never could understand the catch a big fish and throw the leader away thing.
     
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    Like Hank Williams says "If it will it will if it don't it won't.
     
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    Just be sure after catching a fish, you always check line for chaffing and cut it off and retie the hook. Once the leader has been cut and becomes 6' or less, time for a new leader.
     
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    I have fished heavy flouro leaders until there was only 3-4 feet of leader past the serve. Total length maybe 6-8’, no issues. I don’t change leaders at all, until they are too short to fish. Flouro is a lot tougher than mono, and sinks better, as well as being more abrasion resistant. As long as not exposed to extreme heat, flouro will last for a long time.
     
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    I have never been known to be thrifty when it comes to giant yellowfin tuna fishing......when cow fishing after every fish I always retie..... if the fight was long or there were tangles close to the boat or possible rubbing on the hull or anchor rope I change the leader.... if I catch a fish over 150# I change my leader.....I like having a fresh leader and knot out there just in case the next fish is the "one".....totally JMO......
     
  20. Bill W

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    Well i go the other way for other reasons and a little to do with thrift, although thrift is a big plus. You are throwing away a proven tool. Since I do not change my leader and the leader works fine, fish after fish, guess I am an example of proof.
     
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