Why can't I use wind-on leaders on spinning gear?

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  1. Shimano Fishing Fans

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    @Bantam1 - I have a TwinPower 14000 with 80lb Maxcuatro. I really like using wind-on leaders on my conventional gear but i keep hearing "don't use wind-on leaders with spinning gear."

    Is there a specific reason for this?
     
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    I don't know who said that but I have done it several times. We have nothing stated about not using them anywhere that I am aware of.
     
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    Thanks for the prompt reply. I will reevaluate my thinking. Do you recommend removing some of the braid to create more room on the spool? I feel like the wind-on will "pop" off the spool while casting and create a nest (since there isn't any "memory" in the fluoro around the spool). Does that make sense?
     
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    Put a wind on and go cast it. That’s the best way to evaluate it
     
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    Windows tend to have really stiff section where the mono/fluoro are in the hollow braid. You tend to lose some distance from the coiled mono/fluoro hitting the guides. I have some 50 lbs windon on my spinner and about to remove it because of this.
     
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    If you are switch baiting or livebaiting then you have control over the leader coming off the spool but for casting IMO no good at all.
    We do a fair bit of topwater casting and keep leaders to minimum. Some guys have leader measured so when in the lure is set to cast the leader is just above the reel, I personally prefer short leader where when ready to cast the knot isn't in the guides at all.
    Windons have their uses, casting isn't one of them. IMO
     
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    Talk to Jaime (fishordie) and/or Basil (ifish42na). The two have a wealth of information on this topic. Jaime has a very detailed post on here somewhere on the intricacies of spinning gear line management for tuna popping, which is what I assume is driving your inquiry. I would find this post and read it.
     
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    I’ve used short windons I’ve custom made for my Stella’s. I usually keep the Serv connection above/outside the spool and a short leader.
     
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    For the heavier line keep the leader just above the line roller. For the lighter line it will be ok to have on the spool. If you have the spool overfull, the leader can "pop" off like you mentioned with just about any line.
     
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    Done this countless times. Works well
     
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    Thanks for all the feedback everyone!
     
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    @Bantam1
    If I use an out-of-the-package Shimano wind-on, then I need to cut it way down in length, right? (or learn how to serve and make custom one, yes?)
     
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    Yes you will need to cut it down in length or make your own.
     
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    I used the nail nubs method plus a couple drop of superglue. Worked well and super easy to do. Each windon take about 3-4 yards of spectra.
     
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    Just take a couple of minutes to tie a 4' leader to your spectra with an improved albright/JC/RP/alberto knot and call it good. TIe that to a swivel with a split ring and easily change poppers/stick baits without retying.
     
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    Some hollow spectra behaves very badly on spinning reels. Short wind on from a splice is probably ok. Stiff fluoro does want to jump off the reel making it tough to fish with.
     

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