Which Reel Would You Buy??

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  1. No Cal Lou

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    Looking at a 16 size reel to purchase. Would you buy a Penn International 16 VISX, or a Makaira 16?? I can't decide.
     
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    I have a Mak 16 and it's been a great reel on two trips down south but I don't think you could go wrong with either one.
     
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    between those two it's got to be which one feels most comfortable in YOUR hands
     
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    Penn is a little more expensive, lighter weight, probably holds just a little more line with similar drag capability and slightly higher gearing.

    I have a Mak 16 SEA and like the low gear. Really a toss up. Get the one you like to look at and hold since you will likely be spending long hours with it. If you can get a better deal on one vs. the other it may tip the scales as well.

    Depending on your intended use you might also consider HXW Raptor 2 or 3 speed.
     
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  5. ifish42na

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    First I would ask what other brand reels do you own. Second, I don’t think it’s a toss-up; Penn 16VISX is the better reel. Solid construction, made in USA, and reel mechanics that I know and trust have told me about recurring problems with the Makaira 16. I know Mak 16 internet proponents will point to some big fish caught here and there but I classify those catches as stunt fishing. I want a well built, solid, made in USA reel that will last a lifetime and Penn has proven itself over and over, in every fishing venue around the world for decades. The VISX series is a winner so that’s where I stand.
     
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    What’s stunt fishing? I tend to value the internet opinion of regular people. Just need enough data points so statistically significant. Need to weed out bias too and commercial interest.
     
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  7. dh515

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    I like the suggestion by a previous poster to hold both and see which one feels better to you. I truly do believe both are quality reels.

    Having said that, I have a Mak 16 which has been flawless in at least five 14-15 day trips. My son landed his first cow on it and the reel was easily up to the task. I have several other Maks and have only had a problem with one. A 30 SEa that lost freespool. Okuma fixed it quickly for free and I had it back within a week.

    While not the 16, I also have a Penn VISX 12. On its first trip/first fish, the reel lost low gear and I had the joyous experience of fighting a pissed off 120 lb. YFT for an hour in high gear. Penn as would be expected, fixed it free of charge. It took longer as the reel went to Philadelphia for repairs. I’m not saying these are bad reels but not what I expected from a highly touted reel brand new out of the box. Then again, these are mechanical devices and shit happens. Perhaps I was just unlucky with this 12.

    While I would say customer service was excellent from both companies, I’d have to give the nod to Okuma for speed and ease. Just something to consider with either choice, given your location.

    Bottom line, it’s personal preference. The Penn is more expensive, 4 ounces lighter, puts out a little less stated drag and has higher gearing. The Okuma is 4 ounces heavier, has a bit more stated drag and lower gearing. Both have excellent free spool. For me, the deciding factor would be the gearing. Good luck with your choice.
     
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    I have both and think you could go either way. I plan to keep a set of both, one to fish with a short 3-4 fluorocarbon top shot, and the other to fish long mono top shots.
     
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    Both are nice reels,if you plan on keeping it forever I'd go with the Penn. At some point they'll quit making the mak and getting parts will be an issue,Penn tends to support their products forever. Wouldn't buy either without going and holding them to see which one feels more comfortable. A lot to be said for that.
     
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    These are the the differences between the two reels. Dave is correct - gearing should play a major role in your decision. We all have different ways we fish the rail. Higher or lower gear ratios is a matter of personal style. Understand your style and choose accordingly.
     
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    Tough decision. I have the Mak 16 and it has been excellent. I also have the prior generation Penn 16 VSX which has been sent to Cal for lower gearing and Blueprinting. I think the newer Penn's have incorporated a lot of what Cal does to the VSX into the design. I would opt. for the Penn if I had to choose but both are fantastic reels.
     
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    I was in the same boat as you and when I has both reels in front of me I went with the VISX and these reels haven't been out that long.
     
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    I have both and I’d get another Mak. I like the feel of it. It is slightly smaller and to me is just a more comfortable reel. I fish 80 on this class reel, won’t be pushing it further. Now I just have to decide if I want it on my 76 Centaur, my new 1X3, or on my Phenix.
    In honesty, I think whichever reel you choose you will love.
     
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    Lou when I see you later this month you can check them both out at my place....
     
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    "recurring problems with the Makaira 16"

    Would you care to share these problems with us? I have five MK SEa reels, and have had problems with two of them. My 20, after one big and two small yft froze up on me. I couldn't turn the handle. Okuma fixed it. The second problem is with a 30. As I'm winding line on with my line winder, the reel pops out to gear and immediately goes back into gear. Okuma has it now. I hope they can find the problem.

    All brands, at one time or another have problems. Even Penn. I understand that, but when you are out on a Long Range trip and the reel fails, what are you going to use for the rest of the trip? Yea...yea....I know all about "back up" outfits.

    The good reviews are great. Makes you want to buy one, but when a bad one comes along, people think he's just bad mouthing the product just because he has a grudge against it. When I buy something on line and they provide reviews of the product, I read the bad reviews first, and the five star reviews last.
     
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    I have a Mak 16.

    On the Mak, I like the handle ALOT better than the VISX.

    On the VISX, I like the smoothness of the lever drag ALOT better than the clicking one on the Mak.

    Anyone want to trade? :D
     
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    "I tend to value the internet opinion of regular people"

    This is great. I do the same thing, but I have noticed that most of the reviews are positive. Anglers with a negative opinion tend to not review the product, especially here on BD, for obvious reasons. So now you have reviews that are slanted towards the positive, and in my opinion is not very "scientific".

    The best reviews of a reel are the people that work and repair the reels, but they, for sure, will not come on a public forum and give you their opinion.
     
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    Do the same thing as you. Especially on Amazon. Find the products with a large number of positive reviews then read the negatives to determine if I can live with the “possible” problems.
     
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    Which way are you wanting to trade?
     
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    Recently got a Tallica 16, had Cal do a lower low gear and blueprint it. Just got back from the East Cape, was my go to reel with live bait. Got a few marlin, and a couple of decent tuna. Reel worked like a charm
     
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