Where's all the Sandbass?

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  1. CaptJgray

    CaptJgray I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    The problem with that is they didn't get overfished in SMB, there just isn't the same commercial fishing problem inside the bay, and the were there one day and not the next, so to speak. Kinda like the Sand Bass.

    and the sculpin spots and fishing we had in the 90's... OK I admit I may have contributed to the depletion of those numbers. but 3.50 a pound is a lot of money when you are in high school. And chicks dig money.... especially in TJ
     
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  2. Azarkon

    Azarkon I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Man I'd love to have had sablefish to catch in the bay...
     
  3. makairaa

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    Sablefish are cold water fish. Hence why they are usually deep. I will guarantee enviromental reasons like a series of el ninos are why they originally stopped coming inshore. Nowadays overfishing may play a part. Although the black cod/sablefish commercial fishery is so regulated in california not sure how much that plays a part. By the way redondo and newport sit at the top of submarine canyons which is why sables were sometimes caught there.
     
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  4. tunanorth

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    Bingo.
     
  5. hucklongfin

    hucklongfin Deep release specialist

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    I did my part to help with the giant squid. Catch, stomp, release! I suspect they left a barren wasteland behind. I saw fish jump to get away and squid going airborne after them.
     
  6. pele

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    First time on a party boat-1973 ot of Daveys with jr high fishing club;wfo sablefish.We weren't too excited as we wanted rockfish.who knew.
     
  7. Azarkon

    Azarkon I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Dosidicus gigas - Humboldt squid - expand their deep sea range whenever there's an El Nino, and then show up near the surface during La Nina years since they prefer to feed in cold water. Given the warm water we've had for the past three years, I wouldn't be surprised of a major Humboldt squid run in the coming years.
     
  8. Bubba

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    Fishing the sport boats out of Ventura/Oxnard for 25 yrs was a joke, sacks stuffed with sand bass within an hour during the spawn and this went on all summer with the entire fleet and privates.
     
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  9. yellowfish26

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  10. fishkilr

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    What the??
     
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  11. KID CREOLE

    KID CREOLE I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    You guys that think the Humboldts destroyed the sand bass is nothing less than comical.

    During 1976 Humboldts invaded with such force that they were being caught on every public pier from Oceanside to Ventura.

    During the grunion runs that year humboldts were chasing the grunion through the surf. The squid would get rolled up on the sand and people walking up and down the beach would load them into gunny sacks

    So I guess that year they were on a grunion only diet and left all the sand bass alone, LMFAO
     
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  12. KID CREOLE

    KID CREOLE I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Right, WTF are you talking about Azarkon
     
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    HAHAHA!
     
  14. spize909

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    It sure seemed like those two years of squid were when they disappeared. It was business as usual before that and then they were gone.
    I taught my kids how to fish on twilights for sand bass. It's a shame.
     
  15. Uglybones

    Uglybones Take a step to the left.

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    They're schooling with the albacore.
     
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  16. Azarkon

    Azarkon I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    How many wide open sand bass bites did you get into that were not during their spawning seasons?

    It is a fact that the fish are spread most of the year, get into large schools of hundreds of fish during spawn, and are caught primarily during that time. This behavior is also shared with black seabass which was how they nearly wiped them out.

    I've heard the same with sculpin though I never target them. But sports captains who do tell me that they specifically target the spawn in order to get limits of legal fish for their boats. If you find a large, quality grade school from these species that seem to be jumping on the hook, it's a spawning school, because their adults simply do not gather in such large groups otherwise.
     
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  17. crabdancer

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    The Internet killed all the sand bass. Before the Internet there were plenty.

    Azarkon I'm surprised you haven't come across my internet theory in your research.
     
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  18. fishkilr

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    Your joking right...
    Your quote said many species but to answer your question probably hundreds of WIDE open sand bass bites on the reefs and walls even in the harbors locally...
    When we fished brown bait you could count to 10 most times and swing ..
    As far as other species if you only had wide open bites during the spawn and you have fished a long time maybe poker might be a better hobby...
     
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  19. Azarkon

    Azarkon I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Wide open bites = schools of hundreds of adult/legal fish, not your catch and release sessions in the harbor. Yes, there can be wide open bites of small, baby fish that school together for protection, but that's not what I'm talking about because I was talking about party boats & their fishing behavior in that post.

    When was the last time you saw hundreds of adult sand bass in an area when they weren't spawning? Neither sand nor calico bass school together to feed. They only school together when they spawn. So when you find a large school of bass, guess what, they're spawning.

    Of course, if you consider your average bass session on the kelp a wide open bite just because you can pull three legals and a dozen shorts out of it, then there's nothing to talk about.
     
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  20. fishkilr

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    You try to educate people about fishing phrases like "wide open" and you tell us about "small baby fish" and "3 legals"make it very clear that your actual fishing experience is very limited (no matter what you claim).
    If you think sand bass and calicos stacked up on a rock pile only do so when spawning then your scientific knowledge is severely lacking also..
    You seem to be the Howard stern of bloody decks by saying senseless things to get a reaction and I for one will not respond to your lame posts anymore....
     
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