Where is there a chart on hooks?

Runway1

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There's a chart for everything. Charts for stuff you never thought would be on a chart. E.g. Line strength vs actual, 3,654 charts on knot strength, I saw a chart on expected tuna depths by water temp. Rockfish sizes by depth....

We all want it....we all want it....should be a chart on HOOK CHOICES BY SPECIES.

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Mr. DRE

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    LOL Unlikely. I determine the hook size by what I'm targeting, line rating and bait size if applicable. Not to mention that sizes vary greatly by manufacturer, type of hook, etc. etc. Good luck with your quest!
     

    surfgoose

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    Hmm. Since every manufacturer gets to decide for itself exactly what size and shape and style of hook it wants to produce, and label those products any way it wants to, then any kind of "chart on hook choices by species" would be impossible. These people can't even agree on what a J-shaped hook dimensions should be, (let alone the dozens of other kinds of hook shapes) so they just make things and give them names -- probably decided by a committee.

    A more likely topic for discussion might be a question about how many different sizes and styles and manufacturers of hooks do you find it necessary to go offshore with in your tackle box?
     
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    Shimano Penn

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    A 1/0 in one brand is the same as a 4/0 in another, there is no standard. A size "large" in a Tommy Bahama shirt will fit a 250 pound guy, a size "large" in an OP shirt will fit a 160 pound teenager. One rod rated 30-50 will fish 20 ideally while another rod rated 20-60 is a great 50# stick. Sad for us but the truth is it's only experience and the brotherhood of sites like this that protect us. The manufacturers just want to sell product, they don't actually care if you never buy again because there is a never ending supply of noobs. They say they desire customer loyalty but do they? There will always be some uninformed/ uneducated new guy who will buy their shit:rolleyes:
    Old guys like me stick with the brands that understand this and don't abuse it. 30 years ago for trolling lures I used a Mustad 3412C needle eye hook. It doesn't exist anymore by that reference but their site still references the number and directs you to the same hook. That is class and I will stick with them forever :D
     
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    Shane R

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    So the moral of the story is this. When the captain says a 2 or 4 not a 2/0 or 4/0. Be that smart ass and ask him if that's a owner, mustad, or what hook are you referring to I probably have it.
     
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    kevina

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    So the moral of the story is this. When the captain says a 2 or 4 not a 2/0 or 4/0. Be that smart ass and ask him if that's a owner, mustad, or what hook are you referring to I probably have it.
    That would go over real well, But on the other side, Theirs always "That Guy" on every trip.
     
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    hucklongfin

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    I think of Mustad as the standard but there are those who would use Owner as the standard. Owners are larger, so a 2/0 Owner is about the size of a 4/0 Mustad.
     
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    AWilliams

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    In the rare...and I mean rare occasion in using bait, If the cap't says #1/0 hook, I'll show the deckhand what I have and make the adjustment from there based on what he says. No chart needed.
     
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    FishingRx

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    Varies a lot within the same manufacturer! Purchased 6/0 ringed hook on right. Wanted a large hook for bottom of flat falls. The left is a 12/0 Kaiju. Slightly different!
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    TOTW

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    Yep. Need a size standardization before getting species specific. So many variables to go with a hook selection, too: bait size, fish size, technique…
    I had a guy on a trip tell me with 100% confidence and authority that all makers used the same convention for hook sizes, so I could be sure that any 1/0 would be the same regardless of manufacturer. Clearly, he never actually checked this with a simple side-by-side comparison.
     
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    Shewillbemine

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    The fact that you've got completely different sized baits (same species) for completely different sized fish you're hunting for (same species) means you can't really standardize something like that.

    Fish mood is a killer too. Sometimes they'll bite anything in the water and other times it's gotta be so damn tiny.
     
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