What's your preferred length for a wire Wahoo leader?

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  1. Montaukmaniac

    Montaukmaniac Thats my son, not me.

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    STLR friends,

    My personal favorite for fishing HOO, are bombs and jigs. (JRI preferred for that awesome kick & those Hooacide bombs).

    Disclaimer: ( - here's hoping we don't get into the classic jigs versus bait volley, where we end up with that animated video)

    Over the last two years, we've seen it anglers on our 10 day using bait to very good effect.

    The old haywire twist single-strand leaders sold on board, look to be approximately 6 to 9 inches.

    So here's the question for discussion. What's your preference and why. I'd be grateful to hear, recommended strategies and why; for single strand wire, or multi stranded wire, or titanium wire and your go to rigging.


    I've got a variety of excellent HOO recommendation over the years, from extremely skilled anglers, (IE: using heavy / or doubled fluoro rigging for jigs and bombs).

    I'm looking for that experience & knowledge that is so generously and selflessly offered on here on BD.

    Thanks to all of you in advance!
     
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    27# or 32# single strand, 9-10 inches long, Mason ring and hook size matched to bait(1/0-3/0), Fish it on either 25 or 30# mono...have been known to drop to 20#. Looking for minimum drag on the bait...I don't cast the bait(so it doesn't get stunned), just a gentle underhand and if it's the right bait, he's gonna churn and burn. I've seen way too many multi strand leaders chewed through to trust them, even the heavier stuff used on bombs. Never tried the Knot-to Kinky stuff, I can tie that haywire pretty fast in the off season, and have a ton of them. If it ain't broke, I'm not looking to fix it.
    edit to add that yes, one and done as others have said. But after a fish I am always cutting off 4-5 feet of line anyway that has rubbed against that last fish, so I have to retie a wire leader anyway ;)
     
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  4. Luke

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    Titanium wire is great because you can catch multiple fish on the same leader. My experience with tradition single strand wire is one and done. The Titanium requires the right crimps, a special crimping tool and an investment of time to master the triple pass through the crimp technique. There are multiple posts on this subject in the Archieves. I make my leaders about 18” 10 20” using small black rings and Trokar J hooks. No plans to change......

    Luke
     
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  5. Montaukmaniac

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    50 pound crimped titanium, salty! (100 Lbs. Nice! YFT or BFT?)

    Thanks Jay-Hook!
     
  6. Montaukmaniac

    Montaukmaniac Thats my son, not me.

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    Thanks Craig!

    (Knot-to Kinky works well.)
     
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  7. Montaukmaniac

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    Agreed = Tradition single strand wire is one and done...

    Thanks Luke.
     
  8. Lake

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    I use 12-14 inches of titanium wire. Luke taught me the three pass through the crimp technique. They are potentially multiple fish capable, but I've had some wrecked trying to remove the hook from the wahoo's jaw. $3 for a rigged titanium leader is a great deal, but I prefer a lighter test.
     
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    for bait i use 35# knot2kinky about 15"

    for jigs 175# fluro on long jigs, 55# knot2kinky on short jigs
     
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    I agree with Luke. He knows his stuff. I like titanium, too, but you may find yourself bleeding from time-to-time as you make leaders.....
     
  11. Montaukmaniac

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    Is the three pass through a reinsert of the tag end back into the Crimp or ... ?

    I use a Nicopress.
     
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    Reinsert the tag end back down through the crimp, then back up again. The Nicopress is what he loaned me.
     
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    YFT. We were down south. I got hooed and got mad. Bait swims pretty well on the Wahoo bait rig. Got picked up immediately. Took a long time to land, came in on it's side on the surface.
     
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    Good Info here..Thx'
     
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    I tie single strand leaders semi professionally using the haywire twist (almost 3,000 leaders in the last 3 years). I start with 24" of wire and usually end up with an 18" or 19" completed leader. I've had wahoo swallow almost the whole leader at times. I agree that the single strand leader is a 1 and done (sometimes not even that!) I have friends who like the titanium wire, but so far I've just stuck with what I'm good at.
     
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    Do you do these by hand or do you have one of the fancy, expensive tools?
     
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    I think you and I have discussed this before, Steve. I am untraditional in that I like to use circle hooks for wahoo leaders. Many people have told me that I am beyond foolish, but they work really well for me. I use 35lb Knot-2-Kinky wire, I cut it to 14" to start, and as others have mentioned, I put the leader through each crimp three times. I use AFW 1L sleeves, and I have one of the small Nicopress swagers. I am very satisfied with the results.

    Good luck!
     
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    What brand and size circle hooks do you use?
     
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    I've had good success in the past with 2/0 Owner Mutus. This time around, I used 2/0 Trokar TK619i circles. The point is so sharp, I got really excellent hook sets just about every time.

    I think you could go bigger...3/0 or even 4/0. It depends on the size of the bait, and how aggressively the wahoo are biting.
     
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    I too hand tie single strand. Like about 18” for the finished leader, but have used as short as 6-8” when trying to be stealthy. The only multi-strand I use now is for my trolling gear. I often fish surface iron for wahoo, and rarely have more than about a 10-12” single strand leader. With the jig, I often can get more than one fish on each leader, but I check it very carefully after each wahoo. I am also using 45-90 pound wire, so it takes a bit more abuse than really light wire.
     

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