What's your favorite 30# fly line sardine set up?

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  1. bob1825

    bob1825 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Torium 16HG and Black Diamond 809H.
     
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    Yes, I have an axis. Love it... I'm actually purchasing another one today for my 5 day. Great rod and easy to put on the rail when necessary.
     
  3. DannyNoonan

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    102h Senator on a Penn 6.5' rod. Killed so many albacore on that setup...
     
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    stucktip I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Big5 Special-Sabre Pacifica 20-50lb with a Penn Jigmaster. The reels have excellent freespool and the whole rig is a fraction of the cost of bigger name brand stuff. And also super easy to use, I let all my first time and beginner friends use them with great success. Fish don't care how fancy your rigs are
     
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  5. Steve K

    Steve K Hey, I'm gettin' bit...

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    Love that rod for 30 lb, could even fish it with 25 lb. On a little Fathom 15LD2. Casts very well and if I hook one of the bigger "graduate school" size fish, I have the option of going with the lower gear. Old guys need all the help we can get. ;)
     
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    Just put my Saltiga 30 on a new 76 Tilefish Jr. Rod was great, but haven't caught anything over 25# with it.
     
  7. surfgoose

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    My 30# setup is a Penn Baja Special 113HN on an oldy-but-goody Kencor 870X. Eight feet, rated 20-40, casts beautifully. The Penn has 300 yards of 65# braid and 140 yards of 30# Izor XXX, and no fish under 30 pounds has ever gotten me down to the braid except long-soak Bluefin. I like and use 2-speed reels all of the time, but I have yet to find one which casts as well as a classic star drag.
     
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    Don't use 30lb all that much anymore but when I do it's a Calstar 800M with a Penn Torque 25N (straight solid 50lb or 65lb Spectra with a 3-4 ft. fluoro leader)... can throw a dine or lighter (smaller C size) surface iron very well on this combo, it also makes for a great Hoo live bait setup. The rod is parabolic (but has backbone) so it helps with me having a tendency of pulling too hard and breaking off on lighter 30lb line (rod acts as a bit of a buffer/shock absorber). I use the 800M rod deckhand style. Newell 332 is also a great reel for this application... best free spool, just not a strong as the newer aluminum 1-piece frames, but how hard are going to pull on 30lb anyway? The Penn Torque reels have awesome free spool and a very light weight forged aluminum spool... I also like that I can get lower gear ratios for them as I am NOT a fan of 6 to 1 gear ratios for west coast bait and surface iron fishing.

    G
     
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  9. Baller

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    Avet MXJ Raptor with a UC Tilefish Jr. Doesn't get much better than that imho...
     
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    Calstar 700M and sliver Saltist 30H. Great all around 30# rig.
     
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    Rodless_Jim I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    UC Wahoo Jr. (7') and a Daiwa Saltist 40 2-speed lever drag.
     
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    The OP has asked: "what's your favorite 30lb fly line sardine set up"... a 2-speed lever drag is NOT going to cast a fly line sardine anywhere near as well as a star drag will (that's a FACT not a rumor)... and does anybody really need a two speed for 30lb applications?... total overkill IMO and no need for the extra cost or the much heavier spool with drag components attached to it. IMO, 30lb is best suited to fish for 20lb to 50lb fish in the LR arena... so if the fish are larger than that I'm personally going to fish 40lb or 50lb line/leader and if the fish are smaller than that I'm going to fish 20lb line/leader. For me 2-speed lever drags come into play when I'm fishing 50lb line and up (unless they are finicky larger grade tuna where I'm dropping down to 40lb line to get bit and/or the fin bait is smaller in size or weaker than normal) other than that I'm using the best free spooling star drag reel I can find (preferably in a narrow version) for the 40lb line and under fly line sardine application. Have also found that the longer rod 8 to 9 feet is key if your intention is to get that fragile little sardine away from the boat via a gentle overhand or side hand cast via a large soft arc. ;)

    G
     
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    Rodless_Jim I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    We're going to have to agree to disagree on that. I cast my 2-speeds pretty well, thank you. I think it depends on which 2-speed, frankly.

    Of course, maybe that means that I just don't cast well period. But I really don't think so.
     
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    Penn torque 100 on a calstar700m
     
  15. Jim Schmitt

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    Thanks for all the great replies. Fun reading everyone's preferences, gives me a lot of good ideas.
    great points Okie: true statement but I only have the 2 speeds at this time. The Tallica works great for me. Like the option of low gear at times (every once in a while I still get tired!)
     
  16. hucklongfin

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    When it comes to the small 2-speeds it's not like the low gear is a granny gear like in a cow reel. For example, the Avets have a 3.8:1 low gear. I think of them as having a jig gear and a bait gear.
     
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    Love fishing with guys like you on a light line (30lb) "fly line" distant bite as my "fly line" sardine gets out 25 to 35 feet further (into the zone) than yours ever does and my fin bait has little to no competition once there other than a few hard thrown chummed baits that swam away from the boat once they landed... so my "fly line" bait generally gets slammed first! If your lucky enough though the other targeted gamefish will follow my hooked fished as its headed to the boat for gaffing... so you may get a chance at getting bit second to me as the followers come in closer (but maybe not... especially if the followers suddenly recognize they are getting dangerously close to that noisy 90+ foot sport boat ("death from above") that we are both fishing on). :D
     
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  18. ReelDealAngler-

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    We are talking light line and fly line application here... right? So jigs are going to be lights too? If that's the case then 3.8 to 1 works well for cranking light west coast surface iron... right? Some here think 6 to 1 is way too fast for west coast surface iron... they are supposed to be cranked SLOW (by design) so they kick instead of spin. And if you are talking heavy jigs (yo/yo) why would you do that on 30lb line? Just trying to make some GOOD sense of using a 2-speed lever drag for 30lb fly line or light jig tossing applications.

    To each their own as they say...

    G
     
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  19. Steve K

    Steve K Hey, I'm gettin' bit...

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    I'm gonna go with this old saying: "It's not the Arrow, It's the Archer." Tossing some fairly small Sardines last year on a late September 6 day down on The Ridge, I was easily outcasting some of the guys using very nice Star Drag reels. I was using that Fathom 15 LD2 on a 7' rod. One guy, (I shit you not) asked me if I was using a weight. This was easy, "Put your bait in the liquid" style fishing for most of us, yet some of the lesser experienced guys were having trouble getting bit. This was on the Rooster, Andy and I had a quick chat when he said, "The ability to cast should be a prerequisite to this kind of fishing." By the way, a Fathom 15 LD2 is $200 less than the same size Torque 15 and with the Torque, you're stuck with 6.0:1 gears, so if you want to fish their Versa-Gears at 5.4:1 or 4.8:1, that's another $40.

    There ya go.
     
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  20. Steve K

    Steve K Hey, I'm gettin' bit...

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    Uh oh, a little Dick waving going on here.
     

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