What's Your Choice for 130# Outfit?

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  1. J.AkuHed

    J.AkuHed I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Not that I'm going on a long range cow trip any time soon, just curious, what is your choice for 130# outfits? Penn 50s-80s, Acurate ATD50s-80s, Avet 50s Makaira 50s-80s, Tiagras? On what rods, Seeker 2X4s, 3X5s, Calstar 779XXXHs, Phenix 700X4Hs? Are there any others?
    What's up with your choice, why do you think it is superior to the others?
    Thank you for your indulgence.
     
  2. JSR

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    for 130.............
    Jim, my favorite is gonna be an atd 50 on a ss3x5
    the gold standard for reels in this category
    but,
    a Mak 50 on a ss6463xxx is also gonna be sweet at a better number
    why? Cal designed it w/Tiburon for Okuma
    it can't be beat for the price
    Tiagra/Penn vsx after that
    50w/80's for 200 ss 3x5/ ss6463xxxx and cs770xxxh
    and/or
    30's/20's/12's for 100/ 2x4's 1x3 and the cs770xxh
     
  3. J.AkuHed

    J.AkuHed I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Cool, thanks for your response!
     
  4. offshore6

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    I am "old schools" but I own the tackle and see no compelling reason to change.

    For my kite and live skipjack outfit, I use a Penn 80STW and a Calstar 760XH rod. The 80W is loaded to the brim with JB Line One hollow 130# so I am not going to get spooled but two years ago, a fish ran off 700+ yds.

    For my 130# sardine rig, I use a Penn 50TW that has been two-speeded and hot rodded by Cal on a Calstar 660XXH rod. I feel that the softer action of a glass rod cuases fewer hook-pulls when fishing a short topshot. Again, the reel is loaded to the brim with JB Line One hollow 130#.

    Both outfits are rigged with a loop-to-loop connection to a wind-on topshot. 200#-400# floro for the kite/skipjack rig, 130# floro for the sardine rig.

    If I had to start over on reels, I would have to strongly consider Accurate but I have no complaints about my Penns.

    I use a harness, rather than the rail so my heavy rods are shorter and they run all roller guides.

    Sure, these outfits are heavier than some other combos but, so far, I have never had to quit fishing because the rod/reel combo was too heavy to hold - even with the 80W.
     
  5. Sactotuna

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    I love my ATD 50's.
    Smooth drags, great winching power.
    Rods are so much a personal "feel" thing. Partial to Calstars, 7460XH and 7465H. Wrapped with the double stripper idea to keep the spactra off the foregrip and my hand, cord wrapped butt for leveraging against the rail and a good grip when the crewman has to pass my rod under the anchor rope.
     
  6. J.AkuHed

    J.AkuHed I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Thanks guys!
     
  7. screamingreel

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    130 lbs sardine bait rig - Penn 50S (COFE'd with a Tiburon topless frame) 35 lbs drag at strike, 45 lbs full; 900 yds of JB 100 lbs hollow spectra with an appropriate length Seaguar or Blackwater Fluorocarbon topshot.

    Combined with a Calstar 7465XH with All American rollers (7 + tiptop). I prefer the faster taper, stiffer tip (more leverage) and lighter weight of the 6.5' Calstar. I am tall so I do not need the extra length for casting or navigating around underwater boat obstacles. I prefer rollers because there is less line resistance and abrasion. The roller guides are also more durable and make the rod action stiffer (which I like).

    This set-up works for my preferences. As you can see from other postings, there are many effective options available. Try them to determine what you like!

    Enjoy your trip!

    - Jeff
     
  8. Soda Pop

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    Well I fish cow tuna with a Calstar 770-XXH no rollers and the reel I use a Makaira 20 2 speed full of spectra and a 20 foot 100lb top shot of flourocarbon. The other setup is a Calstar 760-H and a 50 2 speed penn that I just had Allan Tani redo. I like fishing the rail and I have 4 trips this year. 8,9,10 and 11 day. Two trips are cow trips the other two are combo trips.
     
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    Very interesting. . . Calstars and Superseekers, Accurates and Penns
     
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    Accurate 30 with SS 2X4 or Accurate 50 SS 6463XXXh......

    I use a 3X5 with a Accurate 50W for the kite...
     
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    Accurate 30 with SS 2X4 or Accurate 50 SS 6463XXXh......

    I use a 3X5 with a Accurate 50W for the kite...
     
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    Don't seem to fish 130 much anymore. Seems many have been going just a tad lighter on their topshots.

    For a true 130 when there are primarily only big fish around and they are not line shy: SS6463XXXH heavy duty guides not wind-on guides. I add one more guide than the factory uses, beefs it up and distributes the weight (my theory). I put an SDS50 on this package.

    I only have one 50 now, as I like to go lighter these days... Go to stick is a ATD topless 30 with a 2X4..... or Avet T-RX topless 30W with a 2X4... Many cows and super cows caught on smaller reels, and 90 and 100lb top shot.
     
  13. J.AkuHed

    J.AkuHed I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Thanks, Fishybuzz.
    Interesting, not the shorter XXXH on the kite and the longer 3X5 for bait? Thought the shorter rod would be on the kite and the longer rod on deck? No long rods for you, e.g., 2X4, 1X3?
     
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    I have caught to COWS in my lifetime. One was 208# about 4 years ago, and the other was a 345# last November. Both times I was fishing on the Qualifier 105, and the reel was an AVET EX50/2. They are great reels to use right out of the box. Also, they are not as pricey as the Accurates. The Accurates are Great reels, but I would rather spend my $$$ going fishing as much as I can.
     
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    I use straight 130# spectra to the kite harness that's why I use the 3X5 mo muscle.... IMO it is a 150# stick...

    I did say I use the 2X4 for 130# but I also use the 2X4 for 100#...the 1X3 is a 80# stick imo.

    Since I started using the rail the longer sticks work better for me....helps keep the fish away from the hull at co;or and the length and lighter tips gives additional shock absorption with short top shots...
     
  16. J.AkuHed

    J.AkuHed I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Thank you gentlemen for sharing your insight and experience fishing the heavy stuff, I am very appreciative!
     
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    Avet SDS maited with a Calstar 7465H.

    Simply put, it gets the job done.
     
  18. Rodless_Jim

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    I just saw this thread now...you already have good answers, but I'll give you mine just for kicks.

    Note: I don't own any of these now, but I am working up my courage to buy them, and I am 99% certain that this is what I'll get.

    100lb setup #1 - Makaira 20II, Super Seeker 2x4
    100lb setup #2 - Makaira 20II, Calstar Grafighter 770XXH
    130lb setup #1 - Makaira 50II, Calstar Grafighter 770XXXH
    130lb setup #2 - Makaira 50II, Super Seeker 3x5

    I am pretty sure that is all I could ever need for a cow trip.
     
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    Do I understand right that some of the big cows are caught on Penn 30s? Wasn't that 405#er caught on one?

    I look forward to getting into my first 200#+ fish, maybe on next trip, just to feel what it's like.
     
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    It was on a Penn 30SW
     

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