Whatever happened to Livesay Boats

[Dhiggs77]

As some may know I’m in the middle of a restoration on my 26’ Livesay. There is little to no information on these boats online. I’ve read every boating forum that mentions them including the threads on here. From seeing how my boat was rigged, it was pretty impressive. Seems like they were all set up for commercial use or serious private boaters.

I don’t personally know anyone that still fishes on these rigs, so any owners please chime in on experience with your Livesay. What I’d really like to know is what happened to the company? What became of the molds? I understand that Jay Livesay was the man behind all of it, Is he still around?

 

[hbouldin1216]

I still have dreams of that outboard conversion that was listed on here...

 

[flytie]

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www.bdoutdoors.com

Someone on this thread knows Mr. Livesay and you might be able to get the story from him, or reach Mr. Livesay.

looking for a livesay boat

My friend Jay Livesay stopped by yesterday. He asked me to post a "wanted" "ad" for him. He is looking for a 20' Livesay flybridge. It has a flush deck and the "normal" 20 hull. There was one in El Cajon a few years ago, but they sold the house...

www.bdoutdoors.com

Or contact him yourself and ask...

Not posting anything you can't find on the Google.

Jay B Livesay​

El Cajon, CA
SEARCH BACKGROUND REPORT →
Jay will celebrate 74th birthday on December 16. Jay also goes by the nicknames Jay Livesay, Jay A Livesay, Livesay Jay. Residents of 1250 Pioneer Wy, El Cajon, CA 92020 include Jay. This address is used by four companies, including Mcintyre Tool & Machine, Inc and Janus Labs. 9945 River Dr, Descanso, CA 91916 is included in Jay’s address history. Jay has the experience of living in El Cajon, CA and Descanso, CA, and several other cities. Jay has (619) 460-6808 (Pacific Bell), (619) 447-0399 as phone numbers. The only identified post office box seems to be P.O. Box 1568, Alpine, CA 91903-1568. The one possible email address for Jay is [email protected]
Main Address

• 1250 Pioneer Way, El Cajon, CA 92020
• County: San Diego County
• FIPS: 60730162021054
• Possible connections via main address -
• Latitude, Longitude: 32.8130774, -116.9686242

Historical Addresses

• 1120 Pepper Dr #45, El Cajon, CA 92021
• 6319 Lake Dora Ave, San Diego, CA 92119
• 9945 River Dr, Descanso, CA 91916

Phones

• (619) 460-6808, (619) 447-0399, (310) 408-7131, (619) 461-3732, (760) 446-6808, (935) 460-6808
• Possible connections via phone numbers - Audrey Andrews

PO Box

• 
  
• Po Box 1568, Alpine, CA 91903-1568

Email

• [email protected]

 

[Dhiggs77]

Wow what background search tool did you use!? And I’ve read all of those threads post for post. If you look at the people that were to have known Mr. Livesay, they have been last seen years ago on BD. I’ll try reaching out to his email. Scary how much info personal info can be found online.

 

[flytie]

Wow what background search tool did you use!? And I’ve read all of those threads post for post. If you look at the people that were to have known Mr. Livesay, they have been last seen years ago on BD. I’ll try reaching out to his email. Scary how much info personal info can be found online.

That was the fancy tool called GTS. Google that shit.

 

[Dhiggs77]

That was the fancy tool called GTS. Google that shit.

Wow that’s crazy. Thanks for the tip on that.

 

[TheWesNMads]

That was the fancy tool called GTS. Google that shit.

Gen x teaching millennials tech stuff. It’s been nuts here lately.

 

[makairaa]

Which time? They went out of business around 1980. Then somewhere in the late 80’s they tried to make a comeback with an updated version of their 1970’s boat. Saw it at the Fred Hall show. Obviously did not work out that time either. Great boat, but too deep of a V hull for most weekend warriors. Plus most people that wanted that style boat were buying blackmans at that time.

 

[flytie]

Gen x teaching millennials tech stuff. It’s been nuts here lately.

Damned straight, youngin.

 

[Dhiggs77]

Which time? They went out of business around 1980. Then somewhere in the late 80’s they tried to make a comeback with an updated version of their 1970’s boat. Saw it at the Fred Hall show. Obviously did not work out that time either. Great boat, but too deep of a V hull for most weekend warriors. Plus most people that wanted that style boat were buying blackmans at that time.

I had no idea that they where in and out of business. I’ve heard of people saying that their deep v’s were too deep. How crazy are we talking?

The 26 I’m re doing is 30ft overall and it’s got to be in 8000 pound range. Plus it has a lot of weight in the lowest point in boat. It doesn’t have a flush deck set up. it’s hard for me to think it’ll be super tippy unless I’m sideways in a trough. Could it be the livesays with smaller fuel tanks and the flush deck set up that brings up the center of gravity? I’ve been on a lot of 20-30 foot boats and whenever 2 people go to one side it’s always noticeable. Are the livesays ridiculously tippy to the point where they aren’t usable?

 

[makairaa]

I had no idea that they where in and out of business. I’ve heard of people saying that their deep v’s were too deep. How crazy are we talking?

The 26 I’m re doing is 30ft overall and it’s got to be in 8000 pound range. Plus it has a lot of weight in the lowest point in boat. It doesn’t have a flush deck set up. it’s hard for me to think it’ll be super tippy unless I’m sideways in a trough. Could it be the livesays with smaller fuel tanks and the flush deck set up that brings up the center of gravity? I’ve been on a lot of 20-30 foot boats and whenever 2 people go to one side it’s always noticeable. Are the livesays ridiculously tippy to the point where they aren’t usable?

The one my dad and I had was definitely tipsy when drifting in bad weather. Worse than most boats as the hull has something like 5 degrees more deadrise than other deep V’s. Definitely still usable though. Just don’t put too many people on one side. You will love that hull going home in the afternoon chop though.

 

[PacificBlue]

So 24 degrees of dead rise is considered deep, how much are we talking here?

 

[Dhiggs77]

So 24 degrees of dead rise is considered deep, how much are we talking here?

I believe the steepest part of the hull is 29°
Then slowly tappers off to a less steep angle. Here’s a picture of the bow head on and the stern so you can get an idea of the angles.

 

[PacificBlue]

So deadrise is measured at the transom, entry angle is a different parameter, nothing looks “too deep” from my perspective.