What went wrong with this boat?

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  1. Azarkon

    Azarkon I've posted enough I should edit this section

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  2. undone

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    That's a 29' inboard commercial fishing boat that appears to be overloaded.
     
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  3. Kman

    Kman I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Looks like he was going downhill too fast in a short period swell and planted the nose. Lack of freeboard caused the nose to submerge, flooding the boat.

    I always wondered about those bay boats in steep following seas. Before I figured out how to drive her, I planted the nose of my lightly loaded 18’ Bayrunner a number of times. The high bow kept the water on the outside—but just barely.

    My fix was to NEVER go downhill faster that the swell if it was steep, and even then be on the lookout for the beginning signs of bow steer if it wasn’t very steep. Also, I just stayed the hell off the water if I saw steep conditions in the forecast.
     
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  4. Blackfish

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    That is pretty scary.

    Never really piloted a flat bottom boat. Trim the nose up, and don't get stuck in the trough like that.

    This kind of like that boat the rolled about five years ago coming in into SDB. I think it was Defiance boat, except they got there prop fouled, and then rolled in the trough.
     
  5. Bottom Line

    Bottom Line Village idiot

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    29' Defiance coming into Mission Bay - the prop may have been fouled on one engine but doubt it played any role in the boat capsizing.
     
  6. Willdoggy

    Willdoggy Willing Member

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    Looked way too low in the water to start with and bow not trimmed up. Who knows what was really going on here?
    Looks like the right hull but wrong operator to me... Bad day for that dude. Scary Shit right there.
    We have surfed into the Mission Bay Channel on more than one occasion and it is always with a huge amount of respect for Mother Nature. That is a deceiving channel that can get a bit scary but not like Jupiter, FL. Back side of wave, closer to center of channel (away from jetties), bow up and time it right: not too fast and not too slow. Oh and always wear your life vest!
     
  7. SouthBayKiller

    SouthBayKiller I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Those inlets can be pretty damn hairy. To me it looked like 2 things happened:
    1) boat driver drove the boat over the face of one wave rather than ridding the back of the wave in.
    2) boat was either over loaded or poorly loaded as the nose pretty much instantly dipped.
     
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  8. Capt.C.Delany

    Capt.C.Delany Club a Sea Lion, not a Sandwich.

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    X2 on the improper timing of the short period swells/chop; improper trim, there is a fine balance between to much trim and to little. To little and its a pain in the ass to steer, to much and the bow digs.

    It looks like he was overloaded, my guess would be water in the bilge because when the bow dug in (before water went over the bow) it went down really quick. The idea I am thinking of is when the bow went down, the water in the bilge shifted forward causing it to sink lower in the water, then once the bow went down further and went under it was all over.

    Scary stuff. Shows you how fast everything can happen.
     
  9. hbouldin1216

    hbouldin1216 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Boat was an inboard so not as easy to trim, but you'd think you'd put as many of those coffins toward the stern as you could, right? Just makes me thankful that for the most part, most of our ports out here are easy entry.
     
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  10. Azarkon

    Azarkon I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I found a better video of it here, which shows the boat coming in about 2 to 3 seconds before the other video.

     
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  11. hbouldin1216

    hbouldin1216 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Too bad the FL guys on here are few and far between to speak on that bar. Not sure if he could have waited it out or if it would only get worse.

    The fact that there was a kid with a surf board there is probably an indication that conditions aren't optimal for boats.
     
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  12. undone

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    From local reports it was a long time local commercial captain that had been busted in the past for exceeding his allowed catch. Looks overloaded and some bad timing.
     
  13. Alexvi

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    Almost had the same thing coming back from a tuna trip 30 miles out of the Monterey Bay. I was in a 25ft Glacier Bay catamaran. The rolling swell was 10 -15ft, with the wind, the tops of the swell were breaking. As I came down the face of a swell, one of the pontoons went underwater and we broached, luckily we didn't flip. Weeks later, I got a ride in a Radon 22. I could not sell the cat fast enough.

    That guy is so lucky he was not offshore.
     
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  14. hbouldin1216

    hbouldin1216 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Maybe it's just a coincidence but why was there a drone perfectly positioned overhead? The more I watch this the more questions I have.
     
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  15. undone

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    People hang out at places like this all the time hoping to catch something they can post and make money with. The guy has a you tube channel for this stuff. nothing strange or odd about it.
     
  16. mullet

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    He was coming in a little hot for those conditions.
     
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  17. Capt.C.Delany

    Capt.C.Delany Club a Sea Lion, not a Sandwich.

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    That is exactly what I was talking about, coming in hot and slowing down and water possibly rushing forward.

    There are tons of videos on YouTube about the Jupiter Inlet, from what I have seen it gets pretty crazy.
     
  18. plj46

    plj46 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    What went wrong with this boat ? it sank.
     
  19. carterantebi

    carterantebi I hate fishing

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    The boat was definitely overloaded way over the recommended weight capacity. You can see there's that big white thing in the bow, possibly a tank of some sort. I can tell there is probably a ton of water in the bilge just based off of how the boat is riding. When he slowed down all the water in the boat rushed forwards toward the bow which unfortunately was at the exact same time that he was coming out of the trough with another swell lifting up the stern. I'm a sailing instructor during the summer months and the same thing happens with kids I teach when they let water into their boats. The boat wouldn't have turned onto its side so violently if there wasn't already water in it. A better use of trim would have helped the situation a bit, but he was still going too fast.
     
  20. monoloco

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    He straight up purled.
     
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