What to leave home?

Warlord

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I’m leaving 11/4 on the Vagabond for 10 days. The ‘Lupe is likely not a destination. I’d like to pare down my tackle. I’m looking for suggestions as to what might be left at home.

UC Invictus/Talica 50 Kite/big baits
UC Viper/Mak 20
UC Centaur/Penn 30SW. Trolling
Calstar 7475H/Talica 25
UC Raptor 8’/Penn 16 VISX
UC Raptor 7’6”/Penn 12 VISX
BlackHole 801H/Talica 16
Lamiglass 528/Shimano TN40 Raiders & YoYo
Shikari 7950/Fathom 40 II
UC Wahoo/Andros 12NII
BlackHole Cape Cod 8’/Shimano TP 14000
Phenix 869XH/Fathom 25 II
Phenix 869XH/Tranx 500HG
UC GP Mega 8’/Penn Torque 25 SD
UC Terminator/Shimano 20A
Graphtec 80M/Tranx 400HG
BlackHole CapeCod 62 HM/Ocea Jigger 1500. SPJ

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trip actually leaves on Friday Nov 5th, not the fourth. But then arriving the 4th will probably get you first in the boarding line. I just double checked the schedule just now - 9 am on the 5th.

so far the only info Mike has put out on the trip is :

Wahoo/Tuna/Yelloewtail-LL 21

So any and all destinations may pop up. Just got off an 8 day with the Vag and we headed south to Alijos first only due to weather. The bluefin grounds and also Lupe were in the direct path of heavy weather. Mike made a great call and we loaded up on wahoo this last 8 day trip.

I personally would like to spend all 10 days going to wahoo grounds but there is always the day or 2 in the bluefin grounds. Then there is the possible 2 days at Lupe as the new rules allows us to fish Lupe, then go directly south to wahoo land, and then check back into Ensenada on the way back up the coast at the end of the trip.

With that said and done:

I am looking to bring it all: Big blue fin stuff, Lupe gear, wahoo gear, and then the variety of stuff for the ridge.

One change in bear is that Mike reccommends 45 Lb wire over 35 lb wire as wahoo have been chewing thru 35lb. Just ordered 4 more not too Kinky 45lb wires for the upcoming trip.

I would feel better if you bring all the rods you list as then they hopefully forget about me bringing so many as I always do.

What I do is bring all my reels but plan POLES out so that I have :

1 set of reel/poles that will work for Blue fin: 2 HEAVY 100 lb sticks for night and a 40 lb bait set up for day as a basic BF. (Also have 50, 60, 80 set ups used for BF, LUPE, and down south

1 set of reel/poles that will work for LUPE: very similar to BF list

1 set of reel/poles that will work for south: variety but would start with poles 30 lbs and then go higher. My focus is wahoo = 2 bait set ups @40lb, 2 or 3 bomb/lure set ups @40lb and 50 lb. Plus I like a surface iron stick and spin rod for popers,etc

So look at poles that can be multifunctional for all 3 places. I get told Mex has laws limiting to 9 poles but have never seen it enforced. but have been told many times that if they do, kiss my extra poles good by or pay some cash for importation fees. So far, never a problem for anyone I have heard of.

Hope this helps

 
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Steve, I have a tough time looking at all the rods and reels and trying to decide what to take, what to leave at home. For me, it’s easy, I have the collection pared down to 11 outfits. Thinking in terms of application, what are we fishing for?

I want to be ready, fishing Wahoo, to throw a bomb or a jig, so I have two 6’6”-7’ rods, with fast enough star drag reels for that. Use the same outfits for YoYo iron on the Yellowtail. Surface iron outfit for sure.

Bait? I have one each, two speed reels on appropriate rods for topshots 30-40-50-60# and a backup for 40#. So that’s 8.

Need to be able to fish 80-100-130 lb for bigger tuna or dropper loop for Yellowtail. One of these is also my trolling outfit for Wahoo. Since we don’t troll Wahoo and fish big tuna at the same time, I can rerig. That’s all I have, 11 outfits. Kite, big baits? Use the boat gear. I may borrow a 50 size reel to have available in case we hit the Lower Banks, looking for Cows.
 
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    Id leave the heavy kite rod home, the Viper and Mak 20 is big enough for me.
    I'd also kill the 76Raptor just because I like the 8ft Raptor better.
    What else, not sure? But you Sir. have a sickness that rivals mine. 😁
     
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    Lake

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    10 day trips could have a lot of different types of fishing so you need a lot of gear. That said, I'd cut down on your outfits. I'd leave to big rig and your dedicated trolling rig. The Mak 20 rig can cover most of your heavy bases. Between the VISX 16, the Talica 16, and the Talica 25 I'd put at least one of those back on the rack. I'd leave the Tranx 400 home, and between the VISX 12 and the Fathom 40 I'd bring one.
     
    Warlord
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    I’ll grant you the Talica 50 might be overkill. But when asking the skippers, they say bring it. I like having a dedicated troller. I know there’s a lot of overlap. I really don’t feel there’s a “dog” in the quiver. And the 25# Tranx 400 rig is a kick on wahoo!
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    Ksurg

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    For what it’s worth this is what I am bringing on my 10d…

    Torque 15NLD2. 30 Calstar 700m
    Mak 10 30/40 Tilefish
    Torque 25NL2 40 Predator
    Acc 600N. 50/60. Predator
    Torque 40N 60. Terminator
    Penn 12 VISXS 60 Raptor
    Penn 16 VISXS 80 Centaur
    Penn 20 VISXS 100 Viper
    Penn 50 VISXS 135 Invictus
    Penn VIS 50W SE Kite OSP 4x
    ATD 30 100 Calstar 760H troll

    and bringing my lucky Trinidad 40 for wahoo backup😉
     
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    My last 8 day the 25n and Monster were used 60-70%, used my 15t/predator for dropper loop, and the 20a 6480 on the Hoo, O ya, the 15xnld and rgp mega kicked ass throwing the 100g Gomami jig, all my other gear were ready but racked, probably wouldn't even rig up the 16, 20, and 50's unless you turn and come back to the BF Grounds, but knowing Mike that's probably part of the plan if the weather lays down
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    Steve, I have a tough time looking at all the rods and reels and trying to decide what to take, what to leave at home. For me, it’s easy, I have the collection pared down to 11 outfits. Thinking in terms of application, what are we fishing for?

    I want to be ready, fishing Wahoo, to throw a bomb or a jig, so I have two 6’6”-7’ rods, with fast enough star drag reels for that. Use the same outfits for YoYo iron on the Yellowtail. Surface iron outfit for sure.

    Bait? I have one each, two speed reels on appropriate rods for topshots 30-40-50-60# and a backup for 40#. So that’s 8.

    Need to be able to fish 80-100-130 lb for bigger tuna or dropper loop for Yellowtail. One of these is also my trolling outfit for Wahoo. Since we don’t troll Wahoo and fish big tuna at the same time, I can rerig. That’s all I have, 11 outfits. Kite, big baits? Use the boat gear. I may borrow a 50 size reel to have available in case we hit the Lower Banks, looking for Cows.
    I was pretty steady at 11 for a long time, but I have creeper up to 12 by adding another jig combo.
     
    Steve K
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    I don’t think anybody is going to penalize us for adding “just one more.” Unless of course you do it month after month! ;)
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    hucklongfin

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    I took 12 on my 10 day a few weeks ago and used all except the 80# which was a Mak16 SEa/UC Centaur 76.
     
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    I find it easier to parse by asking myself what I might tie on each combo--and why. More than once I've left stuff unrigged and in the rack because I had no idea what to do with it. I see lots of overlap in your gear. Unless you have about 5 different lures to fish at any given time, you can definitely eliminate some of that middle band.
     
    Warlord
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    I like to have a few rigged up for ‘Hoo - one for Raiders, one or two for bombs, surface iron, a light and heavy bait wired, and popper maybe. 😎😎😎

    I’ve yet to get a ‘Hoo on a popper or surface iron. When the action gets frantic, there’s no time to be rigging!
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    Id leave the heavy kite rod home, the Viper and Mak 20 is big enough for me.
    I'd also kill the 76Raptor just because I like the 8ft Raptor better.
    What else, not sure? But you Sir. have a sickness that rivals mine. 😁
    I take my own kite rig because if there is a consistent bite going on with the kite the crew doesn't always get around to changing the leaders
    Id leave the heavy kite rod home, the Viper and Mak 20 is big enough for me.
    I'd also kill the 76Raptor just because I like the 8ft Raptor better.
    What else, not sure? But you Sir. have a sickness that rivals mine. 😁
     
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    Baller

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    Take it all. I would, especially on a 10 day. Nobody said you have to rig all of them up at once. I normally leave the stuff not needed bundled up (And on the upper deck) until I do need it then it gets rigged up and used. So for example you go from the ridge to the Lupe. You can put up all your wahoo jig stuff (Rods, reels and lures, etc) because you know it will primarily be a live bait kind if gig.

    As the saying goes... "I would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.."
     
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    10 day trips used to be easy to plan for but with this bluefin thing going it adds wrinkles.

    I personally don’t bring a kite or trolling rigs. Just don’t see the need when the boat has them and they don’t come out of the rack much. This allows me to bring extra wahoo specific set ups. I’ll bring 10-12 rods and probably 15 reels
     
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    ZZZZZ

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    I would feel warm and fuzzy to be prepared for cow BFT or YFT cowfish

    Lower bank Cowfish first score. Doubt it. But maybe

    2004 the year before the 2005 LR LB phenomenon. Most were not prepared. 10 dayers ran into those fish and most were lost
     
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    ZZZZZ

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    Be considerate if riding allot of boards/rods, that draw different lines. For landing a fish. Velcro straps.

    It's called a quiver.

    Off a kelp. I will go through a few rods. Not retying. Until the bite is over. Then rer-ig.

    Just don't be a hog. Can velcro rods together for one rod slot

    Oftentimes. Most my rods are towards the bow. By choice

    I will bring 3 bass rods. Whatever guy
     
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    hucklongfin

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    I do 10 day trips on the Excel. They allocate 4 spots along the house and 2 on the tackle station per angler plus I take a crate with 10 rod holders that goes upstairs… I usually take 12 rods plus a few extra reels. 8’ers fit along the house and the sky’s the limit on the tackle station and the crate. Plan accordingly based on the boat you ride.
     
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    Warlord

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    With ‘Lupe now being considered as a possible destination, I may have to revise my final quiver. I’ve decided to leave the SPJ gear at home along with a 50# and a 40# rod.
     
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    Tunahead

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    With ‘Lupe now being considered as a possible destination, I may have to revise my final quiver. I’ve decided to leave the SPJ gear at home along with a 50# and a 40# rod.
    Whoa you may need the 40-50 for wide open Albacore bite offshore...on the way to the Lupe. LOL LOL
    *(oops those were the good old days,,,my bad)
     
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