One of the great posts, we are all quick to shout when we are 8 for 8 or 13 for 15. But we all have had those brutal days and we put so much into these trips in every way, time, money, passion, sacrifice family and work time and expectations are high. We have all been there if not in deed in spirit. I love your great attitude, helping us understand the rods don't work so well as two piece models. Thanks!!'