What makes a " good Wahoo set up"?

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  1. Steve K

    Steve K Hey, I'm gettin' bit...

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    The "back up and gain line" method will also work when you want to shift your reel to low gear. But staying in high gear is where I think I want to be.
     
  2. hucklongfin

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    I've never gone into low on a Wahoo. The deckie would probably yell at me if I tried or I'd just hear the old "Mark, you know better"! Just keep turning the handle, even if you can't! Just stay tight at all times, the Wahoo will tire out pretty quick and then you can crank it in.
     
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    Bill,

    Put an Accurate rubber knob on your Torque 300 and your SST 8... they sell them as an accessory (conversion is pretty easy... just make sure you get the Accurate knob set with the flat flange on the bar connecting the knob to the handle blade... NOT the one made specifically for Accurate reels with the convex square on it. Its a larger size rubber knob so its easier to grip in your hand for the power crank than the smaller/narrower Penn knob. I don't care for the stock T-bar style handle on the SS 8 for the fast crank Hoo application or for the yo/yo application either (T-bar is great for the heavy tension slow power crank when rod rests on the rail... especially on vertical larger grade YFT, but IMO you don't need that type of power crank for the Hoo... big rubber knob works fine and IMO much better for the fast crank where you need to level line properly and reel is in a higher up position with rod butt under your arm and left hand holding the reel with left finger and thumb leveling line. I can PM you some photos of my Accurate knob conversions if you like... pretty simple to do with just basics tools and a power drill. I use the Accurate knobs on my Newells as well (hate that hard ass plastic knob even though it is flat... that Carl loved so much and would never change).

    G
     
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  4. strackle99

    strackle99 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    A good Wahoo setup is easy to spot.

    It has a wahoo pinned on the other end.
     
  5. screamingreel

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    I use a similar style as ^^Jeff^^ but with different gear; a Calstar GF7465ML with a Tiburon SST8 or a GG90J with a Tranx 500. Depends on the situation and my mood...

    - Jeff Burroughs
     
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    Bill, I've been using the SST8 for wahoo over a dozen years. I discovered some SST8s are easier to turn the handle than others. The newer "Okuma" Tiburons handles crank easier if set-up correctly. For Wahoo lures, I set the drag as high as possible without affecting free spool. I also set the shift point to as high as it will go (stays in high gear as long as possible).

    An SST8 will never crank as easily as a star drag reel. One way to ease tension on the crank is by adjusting the double-dog anti reverse as it places tension on the spool shaft. The reel makes a lot of noise and is not the smallest, but it really does well on wahoo regardless of size. I have wound in some in fewer than 30 seconds.

    If you are really sensitive to handle-turning resistance, sending your reel to Alan Tani or another reel guru to have it tweaked as much as possible will further improve performance.

    Good luck and have fun!

    - Jeff Burroughs
     
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  7. Bill W

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    Good info Jeff..
    I really wanted the Okuma version but have the U.S. version.
    Was curious if I could swap out the gears. I will look in to getting the reel worked on.
     
  8. Brad I

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    I'm not aware of any faster or slower gears than the stock 5.9/2.8.

    But I too love the SST 6 & 8 for both wahoo and yoyo. Grind it back in high, if you get hit, it seamlessly goes into low and always keeps a tight line and tension on the fish.

    I like it with a Calstar Graphiter 765 ml or m--casts far enough for wahoo and has a stiff tip for hook setting.
     
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    I think Okuma went to a helical cut gear. The consensus when Okuma started making the reel they made the reel less noisy and more smooth cranking...
     
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    When they originally came out you had a choice of two different gear settings. When I bought mine they no longer were making the lower setting but that's what I wanted and Rich put it together for me. I didn't use it much and I found on mine I couldn't set it high enough to keep from going into low gear with any resistance, i.e. reeling in your bait, so I no longer have it.
     
  11. Fishybuzz

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    I have all of the sst's except the sst16.....the only one I use regularly is the SST50 for my kit reel.....I have tried for years to "like" them and use them for wahoo but they are just too noisy and heavy for me and not quite fast enough for me ....just a personal thing....tried using the sst 6 for several years in a row for wahoo just was a non starter for me yo yo yellowtail is a nice reel except for the noisy dogs. The sst 8 is a nice reel for bait.
     
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    You're right, thanks, the "High Torque" gearset was 4.7/1.9 compared to the standard 5.9/2.8 --not faster on the high end, but slower on the low end. Better power, better for bait fishing.

    With the standard gear set, the 6 & 8 get about 45" per crank on the retrieve
     
  13. dh515

    dh515 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I've got the Tib 6, 8 and 16. I've kind of gotten away from using them for wahoo although they are fine for that with the auto two speed function. I just pulled out the 6 and 8 and noted what Jeff was talking about. Not the easiest handle to turn so if there is a fix for that I too am interested.

    The two speed is nice when one of these grabs your wahoo offering. Taped at 161 on my Tib 8 and SS 80xh.
     
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    Yes, the SST anti-reverse dogs are very noisy, but I don't trust quiet reels :-)

    Besides, a long range boat is WAY louder than any reel...

    - Jeff Burroughs
     
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    Okuma SST helical cut gears are NOT interchangeable with the USA made SST reels.

    There is an extra thin spacer washer available for SST reels that provides more drag while maintaining excellent free spool, but you have to remember when "hot rodding" any stock factory reel there is generally going to be some tinkering involved (fine tuning). I have 2 SST 8's (Okuma made) dedicated just to Hoo fishing that both have a true 25lbs of drag at strike (straight pull with quality scale) that are pretty smooth cranking (considering its a level drag reel... so never going to be as smooth or as easy cranking as a star drag purely by design), they both have excellent free spool and can cast the larger Hoo jigs on a 700XH 75 yards with ease.

    Auto 2-speed is unbeatable in this application IMO, and auto shift also comes in real handy when that 100lb+ class YFT eats your shinny Hoo jig (providing you have the rod needed for that task as well). I like a heavier action (stiff tip) rod for Hoo fishing and have found that the heavier SST 8 reel actually helps balance out the heavier action (stiff tip) rod better than the lighter weight star drag reels and provides you an opportunity to land that 100lb+ YFT. Dave got that beautiful 160lb class YFT on his SST8... I got a real healthy 132lb YFT at Lupe last year on one of my SST 8 reels fishing 65lb solid on a 875XH (which also makes a great Hoo outfit as well).

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    An HXJ Raptor and a UC Tilefish is my main wahoo fishing rig. Perfect for ME....
     
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    Good one!
     
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    I have never caught a wahoo but I am anticipating doing so this October/November on a 10 day Intrepid trip. I have two setups that I figure will work best. 800xh Calstar/ 40Nld2 and a 875h Calstar/ 25Nld2. Which of these do the experts think is better for what application? I have an assortment of 33's and Capt Jimmy bombs that will be used most.
     
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    Call me re Pete
     

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