What is the best way to setup line on a surface iron rod and reel?

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  1. afraser

    afraser I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Just bought a high speed reel to use as a surface iron reel (Penn Hi-Speed Fathom Lever Drag Reel, 40N, which is 60 inches per crank), but I am not sure the best way to set this reel up. Either I go with:
    1) Straight braid (which lb test?, either 60 or 80 hollow)
    2) Braid with a 100 yd??? top shot of some mono (which lb test? 50-60?)
    3) Braid, with a top shot of heavier braid (as I've found 60lb braid is awful hard to pick out).

    Can anyone make some suggestions that would both minimize the time picking out backlashes (ahem, professional overruns) and still allow a strong enough setup for fish to 100#?

    This is mostly for the the run and gun fishing the boats have been doing on the bluefin schools. It was really hard to keep up with standard reels with the boat still moving, hence the high-speed reel. I'll probably use this setup on wahoo later in the year too.

    Thanks for you help!
     
  2. fishdoggary

    fishdoggary I do what I want Bitch!

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    65# braid with a 100 yard top shot of 40 or 50 mono is what I use.
     
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    65lb braid with a top shot of however far you can cast and then a little incase you get lucky and cast it farther that time LOL - solid spectra too, not hollow. usually 40lb mono,
     
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    I have my jig reel spooled with 300 yards 65lb spectra on bottom with about 100 yards 40lb mono on top. I like to have enough mono so it's not passing through the guides on the cast. I tried it with straight spectra but the few birdnests I got sucked
     
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    i use 65# solid spectra with 50#mono. the mono is probably about 1 1/2x as far as i can cast so that i can retie several times if needed without having to replace the entire topshot. this allows you to retie for change of color, line damage, cutoffs, whatever.
     
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    Soda Pop I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    X2 ....... 100 yard top shot.... your good to go.
     
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    I drop mine down to 50lb braid to give a little more backing and like others have said use a 100 yard 40lb mono top shot.
     
  8. Fishybuzz

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    If you fish a conventional reel all the comments are correct….I also fish a spinner with a 4' leader and throw straight spectra…the connection never passes the tip…..I can throw it a long ways into the wind which is sometimes necessary if the breezer is up wind……and no back lashes ……remember if your retrieve too fast your surface iron will not swim just spin so with your high speed reel slooooow it down…

    Good luck!!!

    P.S. Just a suggestion pick up a couple JRI-4 surface irons……you won't be sorry.
     
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    Yep, what he said.
     
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    I tried the long mono topshot scheme, and didn't like it. What works best for me is 65# braid and then a small 25 yard spool of fluorocarbon connected with the RP knot variant of the Tony Pena knot. I can't cast a sardine with my Avet HX more than twenty yards (less is more common) so no problem with knots going through the guides, and I can tie the new hook straight to the fluoro after every fish. For fishing jigs I use quality spinning gear, no problem with either casting or line management on the retrieve.
     
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    Don't go hollow. 65 or 80 solid. You actually are looking for some stiff rope. Unfortunately most hollow is very limp stuff which increases the challenge casting.
     
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    I use 50# hollow with a sort loop to loop around 10' on a tranx cast that a mile. Best is go with what you are comfortable with. Head to a park and try a few setups out.
     
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    I'd go with 80lb spectra on the fathom 40n and 100yard of 40/50 lb mono.
     
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    I put about 100 yards of 50 pound mono on top of 65 pound braid. I take a bulk spool of 50 pound with me and change it after dinner every night.
    I fish the jig a lot though, the boats always have line if you don't bring any.
     
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    yup. thats the "best" way

    Personally, I like 100 yards of 40# mono
     
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    I would submit if he knew what he was comfortable with on a new reel, he would have never asked the question.

    Am I wrong? Did I miss the basis of the question?
     
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    that reel should be able to take 80# braid and a long 50# topshot
     
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    Is the 60" a crank correct?

    That's fast!
     
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    I like 65# under 75-100 yards of mono.
     
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    Tranx with cast control features and levelwind is totally different. Line lay is perfect every time. Not so when it is you laying the line and cast control helps when line lay is in varying tension.
     

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