What is a Dropper Loop and how is it set up?

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  1. jimbo450

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    Okay Iam green on this one, I see the words Dropper Loop and found out how to tie the knot. Now how and where on the line does one use this and why can you only use this on a roller guided rod? Can someone explain how it is used and how to rig this up and why it is needed? Any info regarding will be appreciated so I can get "in the Loop". Thanks Guys
     
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    Uses: The Dropper Loop creates a loop which stands out at right angles to the middle of a length of line It can be used in your leader or tippet to provide an extra attachment point for an additional fly. If desired the loop can be made long enough to set a hook directly on it. However, this Dropper loop should not be too long to minimize the risk of fouling and twisting. The Dropper knot is also used on multi-hook fishing lines.
     
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    What makes you think you need to use a roller rod? Dropper loop is often more a technique than a knot. I never use the knot itself and prefer to use a surgeons knot to create a loop in the line. I usually put the hook in the loop and the sinker at the tag end.
     
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    Okay, now I have bought store multiple hook rigs for rock cod fishing and see its use there. I understand to keep the loop small so it wont tangle up when sending it down 400 ft.. But how is it used for Tuna?
     
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    Well, I just read some blog where a guy was talking about using a roller rod for dropper set ups. So, since there isn't any tuna fishing information on the subject, and Iam really confused, about this kind of fishing.
     
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    I have never used a dropper loop rig for tuna, and don't personally know anyone that has. I use it as strictly as a bottom fishing rig for rockcod, lingcod, grouper, sand bass, white sea bass, and yellowtail. In regard to the type of guide, (standard or roller), I don't think it matters as the rig never goes thru the guides. If you are fishing 80# test line for grouper or yellowtail, for example, the chances are it will be a bigger reel on a heavy rod that more than likely has roller guides as this rig may also be used for trolling or live bait fishing bigger fish and roller guides are prefered by many in that application due to the decrease in friction with roller guides vice standard type guides, (less friction=less heat=less chance for line fatigue, and ultimately line failure). The type of guide has little to no influence on fishing a dropper loop rig. As far as I know it is not a preferred method/rig for tuna fishing. I hope that clears it up for you a little.
     
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    not an expert here but I thought that the " Dropper loop " was mostly used for bottom fishing or soaking bait for bottom species as it has an attached sinker at the end on the mono line tied by a surgeon knot .
    http://www.hammondfishing.com/reports/040703.htm
     
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    Well, now we are getting somewhere. I am getting the picture this is a bottom fishing rig as I used to fish 25 years ago out on Catalina Island. But seeing as how this is a tuna website, the dropper loop words are used on the Long Range forum for tuna setups, so still curious how and when those guys are using it for tuna.
     
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    What makes you think we just catch tuna?
     
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    mener used it for tuna and doubt I ever will although in a wide open bite I might possibly thorw on a dropper loop and two hooks on a trolling outfit see if I cant get a double
     
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    Dropperloop set-ups are used mainly on LR trips for yellowtail or grouper.
    Now, there is also the reverse dropper loop wherein the sinker is attached to the loop, and the hook is tied to the end of the line. This is very good for halibut or lingcod. Mostly, on LR trips, dropperloops are used at night by folks who can't sleep and want to catch a big yellowtail.
    Aside from LR fishing, dropperloops are quite common when fishing for rockfish.
     
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    I personally don't like dropper loops for deep water rockcodding, as it doesn't allow for "Spinning", "twisting" which will always occur when reeling fish up from the depths. I only use 3-way swivels when making up single or multipule hook gangions, also if you using shrimp flys on your gangions, use a split ring on the hook eye & then tie your line on, the shrimp fly will have greater action because it is not tied directly to the eye of the hook.....Mark
     
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    Great post & good info, but most agree the DL its basically a bottom fishing rig.
    Anthony
     
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    Okay great info! Thanks Again.
     
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    You will often hear the term "reverse dropper." This is the same rig but with the weight above and the bait below. Several posters have described this variation already. Usually fished with the weight just above the bottom. Commonly used around the kelp for yellowtail and white sea bass.

    Open your mind, Neo. Tuna are deep feeders and bottom feeders, too.
     
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    So the dropper setup is mostly for Yellowtail but not Yellowfin, bluefin, albacore etc.?
     
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    Yeah id say thats what it gets used for most. I have seen some huge grouper and black sea bass come up on them too. In fact my fishing buddy Mark Yang broke the Broomtail Grouper record in 2006 on the Shogun. Sadly it was taken away because it was weighed in at Fisherman's Landing, and you can't possess them in California. I saw that someone posted the common way to tie a dropper, but i do mine in a simpler way that has never failed. I thread my hook onto the line and tie a 7 turn surgeons loop. Then i leave enough tag to tie my weight to. When you tie a dropper this way you have more positive pressure on the fish. Here are some pics of my setup i use. Avet EX with 80lb JB Hollow, 80lb mono. Seeker CJBF65XH. I use a 5/0 or larger Mutu Circle Hook

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