Rick, you should probably go write a novel, skip all the suppositions and maybes, and leave it to the Coast Guard.
Well sounds like in this situation I would of reduced speed and changed course once I realized that the give way vessel didn’t make evasive maneuvers or respond to hailing on 16, especially If I knew I couldn’t see the vessel on radar or from the bridge when it got close. Not like a 332 yacht is a container ship.Or maybe this. The captain and crew of one boat, so exhausted from two days fishing, are headed back to port. they are so exhausted, they forget to turn their AIS on, even if they had one. The other boat, has a very well rested, and well trained crew, with a captain who has an absolute dream job. He didn't get, or keep, that job by cutting corners. He is heading south at 13 knots -- well under his typical displacement speed and appropriate for the conditions. Because the vessel is in a congested area, the captain and a watch stander are both at the helm. Their AIS is on, as are all of their several radars, and collision avoidance is running on each. They get a number of alerts keeping a careful eye on each that presents any risk of collision. One boat in particular is showing up on radar but not AIS. Without AIS collision avoidance data, they must rely on radar alone. They try repeatedly to hail the other vessel, If that other vessel had its AIS active, they could hail by name (or better yet, place a DSC call, which will cause the other vessels radio to beep loudly until answered), but without that information, they are left to hail "unidentified vessel on a heading of XXX, at location XX lat / YY long, this is Attessa off your port bow". Unforunately, there is no answer, but if both vessels maintain their speed and course, they will pass safely, port-to-port. Even so, Attessa continues attempts to contact the other vessel, while also keeping an eye on all other traffic.
Because Attessa's radar is so high, it cannot detect other vessels withing about 400 feet of itself. But, the other vessel continues on a course that permits a safe port-to-port crossing. As the other vessel approaches Attessa, now within 400 feet of it, its crew suddenly notices Attessa, possibly on radar, but maybe its lights. Being disorieted, the other crew turns hard to port, thinking that is necessary to avoid a collision, but inadvertently exposing its starboard side to Attessa. Attessa makes visual contact moments before impact and itself turns hard to port, thereby minimizing the damage that would otherwise have been done.
I find that as plausible as the therry that Attessa's entire bridge crew was asleep while transiting Point Loma.
6. Safe speedAll you Sea Lawyers should educate yourself by reading the The International
Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea 1972. Read Rule 6 on Safe Speed.
You can google it.
Deep Water Sailor
I welcome "dirt" so no problem there. The "why not stop completely" in that circumstance is that it would be, arguably, imprudent to change course or speed, but especially speed, in those circumstances. Oftentimes, in a port to port crossing, vessels will turn to port, after the crossing, to resume their originally intended course. If Attessa were to stop unexpectedly, it would increase the risk of the other vessel hitting it. A 'stand On" vessel is obligated to stand on unless necessary to change course or speed to avoid a collision.if the theory is that Attessa is aware of the Prowler the whole time until they are too close to pickup on the radar, then why not stop, slow down or alter course to completely
By the way, I'm not trying to throw dirt on your theory,
This is why this thread got so fucked up. 500 different opinions. The only thing we should be thinking about is the 2 fishermen that died and there families and the injured. Everything else can just run its course. Prayers sent to everyone involved. mrkrabs
Well, the point I was trying to make is that none of us have enough information to conclude who is or is not at fault. But we can all benefit from considering the possibilities and learning how things COULD have gone wrong, and how collisions can be prevented even when other boats mess up. Frankly, I worry about that alot when I am running my boat.Rick, you should probably go write a novel, skip all the suppositions and maybes, and leave it to the Coast Guard.
Why is the thread fucked up? If you don't like the discussion, tune out.This is why this thread got so fucked up. 500 different opinions.
Why should we be thinking only about the dead and their families? Neither obsessive thought nor prayers are going to change what has already happened, nor lessen anybody's grief. And that, of course, assumes people even believe in any particular brand of diety.The only thing we should be thinking about is the 2 fishermen that died and there families and the injured. Everything else can just run its course. Prayers sent to everyone involved. mrkrabs