What are those damned tuna feeding on?!?!

Discussion in 'Southern California Inshore & Islands Fish Reports' started by Tin Pangas, Sep 4, 2018.

  1. Tin Pangas

    Tin Pangas Skipper

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    was out on backside of Clemente runnin n gunnin on foamers all morning and, needless to say, no takers. but the strange thing was...as close as we were to the foamers...sometimes right on top of em, we couldn't see what they were even foamin on!! what are they eating?!?!
     
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  2. NoLDR

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    very small baitfish. like 3 inches
     
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    rob2dog Newbie

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    When on the Tomahawk 1.5 thursday, bluefins were puking out 3-4" chovies,
    Rad trip.
     
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  4. mandoman68

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    At least you got some dorado
     
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  5. Blackfish

    Blackfish Fishing, a perpetual series of occasions for hope.

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    Got a 63lb last week on a slow trolled mac, 200 yards back. It Was plugged full of tuna crab
     
  6. FloMar

    FloMar Hired Gun!

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    I call it speed bait, little anchovies, could be little sardines, 2-3 inchers, and red crabs, always carry a handful of LIVE Squid.
     
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  7. mik911

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    Any luck throwing a 2-3" megabait in 'chovy color on those breaking tuna?
     
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  8. CaptJgray

    CaptJgray I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I got mine on a flat fall casted into a foamer.

    but that spot of fish also reacted to the small sardines I threw a scoop of. the fish I caught had about 3 gallons worth of red crab in its stomach and 4 anchovies. My friend had one that was completely empty...
     
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  9. jim isbell

    jim isbell I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    It is actually EASY to hook one. Tiny hook, tiny bait, very, very, very light line. Never get one in though. If that bothers you, back to square one.
     
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    pukahd Well-Known "Member"

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    Feed them a 3-4 in fly.......

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  11. IronMikeAC

    IronMikeAC Well-Known "Member"

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    Been there a few time now. AHI has these 1 oz 1.5 oz jigs that look exactly like the micro baits. We see tons of them in the lights at nite. The jigs need upgrades hooks and heavy leader if you're gonna try them.

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  12. FishAcquisition

    FishAcquisition I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    It is smaller than 2-3 inches I think. Last time I was at Clemente couldn’t see it in the day but at night you could see a silverfish cloud in the water around the boat super tiny. I would say 1/4 inch. Just a shine really. Makes me wonder if the fish will get bigger and healthier with all the bait the last year or so.
     
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    Two eyeballs and a wiggle
     
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    Very accurate!! They usually are up on sardine or anchovy fry only a inch or two very small. We butchered our two on Tuesday morning. Stuffed with tiny anchovy and red crab plus chunks of our chum. The suggestions of micro lures. One problem is most will not hold up!! Get live flyers!!! We only caught one. It was inhaled but hook pulled. No more flyers. One guy out there was getting 50 bucks for one!! Lol
     
  15. CaptJgray

    CaptJgray I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I haven't had a chance too try this but someone who ties flies can

    option 1 - anchovy pattern tied onto a strong circle hook or stainless J hook. Trick is that the hook needs to be small enough to be able to support a 4' anchovy pattern but strong enough for 100 pound spectra tied to a mega bait then a bite leader to the fly. I have done this with 40-50 pound yellowfin when they were on this same size bait and it does work, mega bait for flash and to cast the fly

    option 2 same thing but maybe with a squid pattern?

    option 3 Flying fish pattern fished behind a popper? I think Id leave the hooks on the popper though...

    option 4 Same idea with number one but maybe a homemade alabama rig with willow leaf blades as the attractant, good thing is that can all be fished hookless with a 300 pound leader coming off to the fly?

    lots of ideas, just not enough time...

    plus I got one on my first cast:frehya2:... less concerned about figuring them out now!
     
  16. CaptJgray

    CaptJgray I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Flyers are definitely the most reliable way too get them on heavy gear, even with the suggestions above it would need to be on a lighter rod than what I would recommend. And I got mine on a lighter rod than I would recommend...

    Tac 25 (100/100) tied to a 300 pound bite leader to an anchovy pattern/black 250 gram FF on a UC Raptor 70. It all worked well and held together just fine. Rod was pretty bottomed out as the fish was 253#. 30 # of drag at strike and I put it a tad behind full when i got her stopped. but had my hands to ensure she got nothing...

    FYI I pulled really hard from start to finish because when she ate it I thought she was a smaller fish, compared to the others I saw she was...:eek:
     
  17. get some

    get some So Cal Editor BD Writer

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    When they are up foaming they will often bite a floating hardbait if you can get it into the middle of them. They aren't always biting it and sometimes just end up hoovering it up along with their mouthful of anchovies. I've had very good luck this year casting a Rapala Subwalker into foamers and just slowly twitching it through the feeding fish.
     
  18. CaptJgray

    CaptJgray I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I saw you say that a few times on here as well as a couple others. second foamer we pulled up on I told one of the guys to try it. I just wanted to see how fast he could get spooled on that trout rod he was fishing it on!
     

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