What are those damned tuna feeding on?!?!

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was out on backside of Clemente runnin n gunnin on foamers all morning and, needless to say, no takers. but the strange thing was...as close as we were to the foamers...sometimes right on top of em, we couldn't see what they were even foamin on!! what are they eating?!?!
 
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mandoman68

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was out on backside of Clemente runnin n gunnin on foamers all morning and, needless to say, no takers. but the strange thing was...as close as we were to the foamers...sometimes right on top of em, we couldn't see what they were even foamin on!! what are they eating?!?!
At least you got some dorado
 
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FloMar

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was out on backside of Clemente runnin n gunnin on foamers all morning and, needless to say, no takers. but the strange thing was...as close as we were to the foamers...sometimes right on top of em, we couldn't see what they were even foamin on!! what are they eating?!?!

I call it speed bait, little anchovies, could be little sardines, 2-3 inchers, and red crabs, always carry a handful of LIVE Squid.
 
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CaptJgray

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hell no....
I got mine on a flat fall casted into a foamer.

but that spot of fish also reacted to the small sardines I threw a scoop of. the fish I caught had about 3 gallons worth of red crab in its stomach and 4 anchovies. My friend had one that was completely empty...
 
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jim isbell

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It is actually EASY to hook one. Tiny hook, tiny bait, very, very, very light line. Never get one in though. If that bothers you, back to square one.
 
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pukahd

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Feed them a 3-4 in fly.......

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was out on backside of Clemente runnin n gunnin on foamers all morning and, needless to say, no takers. but the strange thing was...as close as we were to the foamers...sometimes right on top of em, we couldn't see what they were even foamin on!! what are they eating?!?!
Been there a few time now. AHI has these 1 oz 1.5 oz jigs that look exactly like the micro baits. We see tons of them in the lights at nite. The jigs need upgrades hooks and heavy leader if you're gonna try them.

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FishAcquisition

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It is smaller than 2-3 inches I think. Last time I was at Clemente couldn’t see it in the day but at night you could see a silverfish cloud in the water around the boat super tiny. I would say 1/4 inch. Just a shine really. Makes me wonder if the fish will get bigger and healthier with all the bait the last year or so.
 
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Very accurate!! They usually are up on sardine or anchovy fry only a inch or two very small. We butchered our two on Tuesday morning. Stuffed with tiny anchovy and red crab plus chunks of our chum. The suggestions of micro lures. One problem is most will not hold up!! Get live flyers!!! We only caught one. It was inhaled but hook pulled. No more flyers. One guy out there was getting 50 bucks for one!! Lol
 
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CaptJgray

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hell no....
I haven't had a chance too try this but someone who ties flies can

option 1 - anchovy pattern tied onto a strong circle hook or stainless J hook. Trick is that the hook needs to be small enough to be able to support a 4' anchovy pattern but strong enough for 100 pound spectra tied to a mega bait then a bite leader to the fly. I have done this with 40-50 pound yellowfin when they were on this same size bait and it does work, mega bait for flash and to cast the fly

option 2 same thing but maybe with a squid pattern?

option 3 Flying fish pattern fished behind a popper? I think Id leave the hooks on the popper though...

option 4 Same idea with number one but maybe a homemade alabama rig with willow leaf blades as the attractant, good thing is that can all be fished hookless with a 300 pound leader coming off to the fly?

lots of ideas, just not enough time...

plus I got one on my first cast:frehya2:... less concerned about figuring them out now!
 
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Flyers are definitely the most reliable way too get them on heavy gear, even with the suggestions above it would need to be on a lighter rod than what I would recommend. And I got mine on a lighter rod than I would recommend...

Tac 25 (100/100) tied to a 300 pound bite leader to an anchovy pattern/black 250 gram FF on a UC Raptor 70. It all worked well and held together just fine. Rod was pretty bottomed out as the fish was 253#. 30 # of drag at strike and I put it a tad behind full when i got her stopped. but had my hands to ensure she got nothing...

FYI I pulled really hard from start to finish because when she ate it I thought she was a smaller fish, compared to the others I saw she was...:eek:
 
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When they are up foaming they will often bite a floating hardbait if you can get it into the middle of them. They aren't always biting it and sometimes just end up hoovering it up along with their mouthful of anchovies. I've had very good luck this year casting a Rapala Subwalker into foamers and just slowly twitching it through the feeding fish.
 
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hell no....
I saw you say that a few times on here as well as a couple others. second foamer we pulled up on I told one of the guys to try it. I just wanted to see how fast he could get spooled on that trout rod he was fishing it on!
 
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