What angle are you working on?

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  1. Rodless_Jim

    Rodless_Jim I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    That is a good point, and I will extend my replacement length. Thanks!

    The part that has me nuts is that when the spectra has broken (thus far), it has been within about 20 feet of the hook. Every time. It could be coincidence, but I feel like there's something going on. I've gotten a little obsessive about looking at the line, but I never spot a flaw.
     
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  2. hucklongfin

    hucklongfin Deep release specialist

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    No cracks in any of the guides on your rod?
     
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  3. reellady

    reellady I'd rather be catching TUNA

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    are you wearing gloves that might accidently snag the line?
     
  4. Rodless_Jim

    Rodless_Jim I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Not that I could find Mark, and I did look. That doesn't mean that there isn't one, though. I confess that I don't always check before I bundle my rods, but I checked them when I got back before I stored my rods in my bodega. From what I noticed, they're not cracked now, ergo they weren't on the trip. It happened on two different rods (and obviously reels), though. Cracked guides on two different rods?

    I'd have to ask Ken Bush, but I know he uses top of the line guides on my rods, Fuji I think. Isn't it pretty hard to crack those Nitride II guides?


    Sometimes I do wear a glove Donna: a baseball batting glove on my left hand. I keep it in my back pocket, and if/when I need to retrieve my line after a loooong soak, the glove lets me put a little pressure on the line without cutting my fingers as I do my best to level it on the reel. It seems like most of the time I end up forgetting or not bothering to put on the glove until late in the trip, after I have already worn a groove in my finger tip.

    Another case of "I have the tool and I just don't bother to use it."

    Anyway, I know friction is bad for spectra, but the batting glove is leather (or pseudo leather) and very smooth. I've never felt the line "snag" (I have had the line snag a tiny bit on my rough skin), and the line is wet coming out of the water. Could I really be damaging the line leveling it that way?
     
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  5. ZZZZZ

    ZZZZZ natural born jig slingers

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    Cigarettes can be a damaging by the smoker fishing the rods or from someone else smoking.

    Might sound crazy. Have seen a lit cig tossed off the back of the boat while the boat is trolling. Watched the lit cig bounce off a troll line. Rod got bit and the line parted.

    Seem crew with cigs in their mouth while using both hands to solve a many way tangle. Seen lit cig grace a line. Creating a bad spot.

    Sometimes cig ash is hot for the first few seconds as the ash falls. Especially in windy conditions or while the boat is underway. Causing the ash to have a ember/cherry from the cig being blown on creating a hotter tip and highet temperature ash. Then someone ashes onto your spool :) while the rod is racked

    There are many more cig scenarios

    Spectra does not like fire or embers

    Something to be aware of :)

    Always best to respect the ocean. Roll cherry out of cig and discard butt in trash can. Making sure not to burn anyone' line :D
     
  6. Steve K

    Steve K Hey, I'm gettin' bit...

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    Responsible smokers dip their cigarettes in the hand well at the bait tank and dispose of them properly in the trash can. Cigarette filters are not healthy for fish or birds that might ingest them.
     
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  7. Fishybuzz

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    Jim a easy way to check for cracked guides is get a cotton ball and push it through your guides.... the cotton ball will snag if you have any cracks or defects. All ceramic guide inserts are easily damaged.

    I have been wearing batting gloves for 20 years.... just like you for the exact same reasons and have had ZERO issues using it......IMO it is not the gloves.
     
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  8. Steve K

    Steve K Hey, I'm gettin' bit...

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    I think JohnTFT or Basil might have some pretty good info on ProSpec hollow.
     
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  9. Bill W

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    Thing is, I'm stumped. I imagine I'm doing something wrong, but I can't for the life of me figure out what.

    I'd like to know the relative diameter and ABS of Pro Spec 100, if anyone has that info.

    I am the kind of guy that does not do a lot of worrying about things until they pop up. Reels do not get serviced like most, except for Maks, since the service center is near my home. Line does not get changed and use TufLine and some Izor spectra.

    What works for me is not really recommended but when a trend is established as with your problem maybe time to rethink your view. Even if your view is from a very respected source, maybe a tackle salesman.

    While Spectra is trying to sell you a product, what i find interesting is the Spectra individual strands are thicker than other brands of super line.

    https://www.spectrafishing.com/
     
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  10. FishRock

    FishRock I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Bill,

    What I find interesting is that even a well respected company like Honeywell still uses somewhat misleading comparisons. Referencing HMPE and implying that it is what all other super braids and "your super-line" are made of. I believe that Dyneema is made of UHMW PE so they really don't even acknowledge it. Not that it makes much difference.
     
  11. shellback

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    power pro spectra
     
  12. Bill W

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    Yep.. They are all out to sell you something. When one says "easiest to work with" what are they are really saying is do not consider the down side. Cause there is a up side and a down side to everything. Either cost, bigger tube, lower ABS, exc... They are in the business of selling, and what sells is having the same material but marketing one as smaller diameter or easier to work with. The down side is that larger tube that is round with tension goes on the spool flat. Lousy for casting and feeding the bait line. There are trade offs for every angle you take. So take your choice. But if it works for you, that is great. I have no stake in any claim but since I do not change my line I can tell you I do not have this issue. There could be other things that Jim does that can affect the durability of the line, but so far I am a happy camper with my thinking.
     
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  13. Fishybuzz

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    Yep started out with Jerry Brown Spectra over 20 years ago and 90% of my reels still have it on I have experimented a little lately with some of the super thin solids like Maxquatro but nothing serious....lol.....I have had very very few spectra issues....Jim if you keep chasing and changing your gear IMO is is going to be difficult to develop a base line for performance....
     
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  14. ReelDealAngler-

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    I suspect that some of the more experienced anglers on here have less problems with their line as they tend to get into less tangles, have the going around the anchor rope or the over/under drill under control, are always aware of where their line is with relationship to stress/friction factors like the boat hull, props, structure, birds, etc. They also keep their line level so it has less of a chance of frame rub or digging into itself and most importantly: they keep it wet too (even if that means poring some cheap H2O bottled water over the line before using it).

    Choater actually provided a great tip many years ago on here that I use EVERY time I pick up a fly-line outfit spooled with braid to short fluoro leader to fish with: "put a 4-8 oz torpedo sinker on the hook (running the hook thru the brass eye on one end) and drop it down as far as you are going to cast or even a good 50 yards if you can... then slowly wind the WET line back onto your reel while making sure to LEVEL it properly"… makes casting so much easier and really helps in every aspect with regards to getting bit. Spectra/Super Braid lines need to be WET to perform optimally in a fishing application (JMO based on 15+ years of using it).

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  15. FishRock

    FishRock I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Would be great if the boats would plumb a freshwater spigot near the bait well so you could drown your reel/line in freshwater just before you pin on a fresh bait.

    Have been practice casting off my back deck and as soon as the line starts to dry out everything goes to heck. Wet line will run off my reel forever without backlash. Maybe I need to setup a camel back hydration pack to drown my reel while fishing.
     
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  16. hucklongfin

    hucklongfin Deep release specialist

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    I have a spray bottle with water in it that I use to wet down my line and to rinse off my gear at the end of the day.
     
  17. conchydong

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    In S. Florida we use Bonito strips and mullet strips quite often and they are great.
    Not sure why it never caught on in California or Pacific Mexico but sometimes they will out fish many other trolling combinations for Wahoo, Blackfin Tuna, King Mackerel, Sailfish and even Dolphin.
     
  18. JohnTFT

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    Jim -

    ProSpec 100 - .425mm ABS of 113

    Tested by Paulus
     
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  19. Rodless_Jim

    Rodless_Jim I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Thanks John.
     
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    ReelDealAngler- Born To Fish

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    I bring some cheap bottled H2O (with sport cap for better directional flow) I use that if I'm in a hurry or on my jig reels where I'm casting 65 yards or so (just soak it all they way around H2O sinks in a few levels). I also spray my outfits down with Salt Away each nite (end of day) and keep all my gear on the upper deck if I can.

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