WFO October Tuna

Discussion in 'Southern California Offshore Fishing Reports' started by Northeastfshman, Oct 10, 2016.

  1. Northeastfshman

    Northeastfshman Moderator

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    After 3 months of being down we finally found my engine issue. It was the ISC valve which controls air flow to set the idle speed of the eingine. Never threw a code just trial and error and lots of changed parts. Basically have a new engine at this point lol.

    I fished last Friday afternoon for a few hour after work for a test run. We fished near the fleet out of Dana and had fish boiling around the boat for two hours. We managed two bites on 15lb and size 2 hooks and landed one. Good first run and trip.

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    I finally got a full day after 3 months away on Sunday. After seeing the futility of fishing uphill on Friday I decided to head South and look for some fresh fish.


    We left in glass calm conditions with 2 great scoops of bait from Dana. We ran downhill and after an hour of running I spotted a huge spread of birds about a mile out. As I approached slowly I saw occasional blow ups so we putted down swell of the fish and I started dumping chum. The fish started blowing up on the chum within a minute and it well full speed. They ate everything. Line size didn't matter for the first hour. We had fish in every direction, right under the boat just insane. You could watch 100 fish chase your bait the instant it hit the water. Truly full speed and great after staring at fish for hours Friday. Best part not another boat for 20 miles. After an hour the fish stopped eating rope and we had to drop down to 20. By 9 my 250 quart cooler was jugged with everything I could fit, about 20 fish. The fish stopped eating bait so I broke out the poppers on the light gear to play catch and release. They went full speed on those and surface iron. Sick sick sick watching yellowfin climbing over each other to eat the plug. By ten we were done and decided to make it an early day. Not the best grade of fish 8-20lbs but a ton of fun.

    October,85 and sunny, glass calm, blue water, not a boat for 20 miles. WFO.

    Pinch me.

    PS Found 2 huge spots of fish on the way back to. Called those out on the radio hopefully someone got on those.

    Full numbers of Fish Dope

    So happy to have the boat back. IMG_5369.JPG IMG_5381.JPG IMG_5358.JPG IMG_5391.JPG IMG_5390.JPG
     
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  2. Iceberg

    Iceberg Jeff

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    That's awesome! Especially for October!
     
  3. Ryan Gay

    Ryan Gay Member

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    WOW. Looks like I have to drag my sled to Dana again. SOON!
    Awesome report.
     
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  4. Tunaslam

    Tunaslam I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Way to go guys! What we have all been looking for recently, you had the magic!
     
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  5. Tunahead

    Tunahead Long Time Tuna Abused Member

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    Solid work and nice fish Brett! Close to the barn too, can't beat that!LOL
     
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  6. Paddyman1

    Paddyman1 I love pangas

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    Nice work, Brett! Photos with mainland in the background.
    Reminds me of last April watching YFT crash on chum within 2 miles of Oceanside Harbor.
     
  7. hagridfish

    hagridfish Well-Known "Member"

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    Congrats. . Love to read good news like this.
     
  8. IrieMitch

    IrieMitch Waterman

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    Hopefully they start biting like this for more people. Seems like finding them without a lot of traffic has been helping!
     
  9. Willdoggy

    Willdoggy Willing Member

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    Awesome report/day and happy for your fixed engine!
    Will
     
  10. Northeastfshman

    Northeastfshman Moderator

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    THANKS! Was some heck of a process.

    We had zero codes and nothing to really work with.

    At first we thought it was a fuel issue as the boat would run but then sputter out at higher RPM's so we swapped High and Low Pressure Fuel Pumps. Worked great. Thought we fixed it died again the next day.

    Figured at this point I had bad gas since it ran for an hour then died again.

    Ran it on an Aux tank ran great for an hour ... THAT'S the Issue!

    Drained 50 gallons out of my tank refill the boat ... runs great for an hour. Starts sputtering again.

    Next stepped we pulled and cleaned the Injectors. That didn't work.

    Checked the cylinders we had full compression, full fuel pressure but the engine was backfiring now so we started on electrical

    (AGAIN NO CODES)

    After some research and calls to Yamaha they were sure it was the voltage regulator... Swapped that ... no good.

    (Please keep in mind no Yamaha part is less than $700 and most are $1,200)

    Next up was the wiring harness ... swapped that ran great! All done... nope starts sputtering again.

    My mechanic starts feeling around the engine and notices the ECU is burning hot to the touch.

    I started googling that and found a thread 20 pages long of a guy with the same issues as me. He took all the same steps I had and had the same issues.

    15 Pages in he notes his ECU is hot some guy immediately jumps on and says check our ISC Valve had the same issue that was it.

    I called my mechanic all excited..he answers and says I think I found it! I started pulling stuff off to see if it made any difference. I pulled the ISC valve and it was running much better.

    A week later we put the ISC valve in and it runs GREAT!


    Go to go fishing the next morning. Turn the key nothing. Take the cowling off and I see we blew up the starter motor. 3 months of cranking on the thing and it died.

    Got that fixed and FINALLY FINALLY got to fish.

    Upside the Engine is literally all new ..or at least that's what I told myself when I got the bill.
     
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  11. skipjack

    skipjack Member

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    Great report! The ISC valve only controls the idle speed.
    Maybe the electric motor (for the ISC) was shorted.
     
  12. Northeastfshman

    Northeastfshman Moderator

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    You are correct but once the idle speed is messed up it screws the timing on everything else or at least in my reading that is what I found.

    Put 20 hours on the boat since we swapped it runs 100% perfect.
     
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  13. Ryan Gay

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    First let me say congrats for your perseverance. Shows volumes about you.
    Being a dealership auto tech (Ford driveability/electronic engine control/electrical systems factory trained) we used to have a saying after someone went thru that nightmare of a diagnosis.
    1) Well that's the first thing I woulda checked! Or
    2) It would have been referred to as a "shotgun repair". Open the hood and blast it with 3 rounds of 12g 00 buckshot. Replace everything that got hit and that should do it. Or
    3) The last part you put on is the only part it really needed.
    It was brutal to be an electronic engine control specialist.
    For any haters let me say this post is meant for the op to smile with satisfaction with a job done well.
     
  14. Ryan Gay

    Ryan Gay Member

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    You have to consider the symptoms. PCM is hot. IAC (idle air control) solenoid works on a duty cycle. Kinda like an a/c compressor being switched on and off continuously. The field coils draw high current. When it becomes shorted it overheats the pcm. Like any computer. Heat=Instability
    If you can get extra cool airflow to the pcm, it will live longer.
     
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  15. flyliner

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    So awesome you had a trip like that after all those boat issues.

    Such a blast when they go stupid like that. I actually prefer that grade of fish when they go wide open. The best part is the hook-set anyway, so when they are smaller grade, you don't have to spend too much time fighting them before you get to hook another!
     
  16. Northeastfshman

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    Such a blast when they go stupid like that. I actually prefer that grade of fish when they go wide open. The best part is the hook-set anyway, so when they are smaller grade, you don't have to spend too much time fighting them before you get to hook another![/QUOTE]


    Thank you so much Ryan! It's been a long process but I learned A LOT and I'm so happy we got it fixed. I really appreciate the above.

    HAHAH So funny Johnathan I saw your post and was kicking myself for running south to avoid everyone vs. further to the West. Congrats again that grade of fish you caught was awesome!
     
  17. Ryan Gay

    Ryan Gay Member

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    Thank you so much Ryan! It's been a long process but I learned A LOT and I'm so happy we got it fixed. I really appreciate the above.


    At those prices I hope you saved your old parts
     
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  18. Munnster

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    Thanks for the great report! Glad that you found the issues with your boat motor and got it resolved. Plus, you probably saved a lot of people some heartache with what you discovered as being the problem. Way to slay them too!
     
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  19. makohead1

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  20. makohead1

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    anti siphon valve?
     

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