Weak wrist position . . . and other common mistakes?

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  1. wils

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    kinda like with my golfing 35+++ handicap. LMAO
     
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    I guess a spinning rod for cows gotta be tons-o-fun...
     
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    The main change in my personal tactics on big fish is to finally, finally understand that it doesn't hurt a conventional reel at all to turn the handle even if you are not retrieving any noticeable line. I keep reeling just as steady as I can, and those quarter-inches add up. Keep the pressure on the fish, always.
     
  4. plj46

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    I've found that frequent masturbation keeps my wrist strong and in the right position.
     
  5. Fincutter

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    I watched a youtube of a Kevin Osborn seminar on the Intrepid. He started by saying that the number one thing is to relax early in the fight. I sometimes forget this but it's so true. The simple fact of being tense or relaxed makes a huge difference in fatigue. Not to mention that being tense invites all sorts of mistakes, including stuff that could be dangerous. Easy to say, not always easy to remember.
     
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    the rod is the lever. The fish is moving(taking drag) pulling against the lever to try and pry loose the stationary object(you). The longer the rod or the higher you have the rod tip the more leverage the fish has to use against you. Your options to lessen that leverage are to keep the rod tip low or use a shorter rod.
     
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    I keep the rod tip fairly low and do not take big huge lifts every time. One reason is that you can be surprised by a fish turning toward you and have no "lift" left to keep the line tight. I have seen many a heartbreak over that one.

    The main thing is to RELAX, breath, let the boat do as much for you as possible (rail) and make the rod bend and keep it bent. When pulling later in the fight I try to grab the rod high on the handle to gain leverage.

    When you first hookup just let the fish run until it stops and then short pump until you get it coming toward you. Then it is relentless pressure by the angler that gets it done.
     
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    Sometimes I wonder if we over-think fishing.
     
  9. larry dickson

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    Went out to bob sands tackle a few months ago to look at a few rods. Met Jamie there. He likes to look at your fishing posture before recommending suitable rods. Anyhow he took over an hour with me correcting my posture and style, and I learned a lot. Best investment of my time I could spend. He was really great at teaching and helping me. Posture is such a huge thing not only in fishing, but in life and I really appreciated his time and input, Super nice guy. He is usually there on Saturday mornings, unless on a fishing trip. If possible go see him or go on one of his charters, guarantee you will learn a lot!
     
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    Now I know why you prefer the skinnier blanks of the UC Lineup.
     
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    Yup. Same for me. Good dude who's crazy-generous with his time. You should have seen him at Fred Hall.
     
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    I’ve told people that now might be good time to push that little button on the side of the reel that you paid extra for. Usually they say good point and go into low.

    I usually try to keep the rod at 90 degrees to the fish so the rod is almost vertical when the fish is way out there and horizontal when it’s circling. I figure that puts the maximum pressure on the fish.
     
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    It is amazing how fast a big fish comes in when that button gets activated. As far as the 90 degrees i have seen that technique and if that works for you that is great. But i have seen the “waiting for the swell” for the rod to unload so they can get a crank. Choose your style... Just different than my style and my thinking.
     
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    I thought the whole point of a rod that bends is to let it bend to apply constant pressure on that fish. Line should be tight. Pointing directly at the fish and letting the rod go limp (not bending, straight) is essentially taking your nice rod right out of the equation. You are basically fighting the fish with the reel only at that point. I think the angle changes on what type of rod you have, it’s length, what the fish is doing, and how heavy you are fishing. Rods shut off at certain points and that’s like your redline on an engine. You are maxed out not making any more power. You want to keep your rod in it’s powerband, in the right range of bending that it was designed for. That way you can apply maximum pressure on the fish with your reel, and the rod it’s attached too.
     
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    Who said point rod directly at Fish? Some angle for sure.
    Hey whatever works.
    To quote Bill W - kills Fish quicker!
     
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    Gotta be PAINFULL at best in my view!... that's a young mans game that needs to be performed on a moving boat with lower side board than an LR platform to even stand a chance if you are talking cow YFT (BFT different story).

    G
     
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    I have a Black Hole Cape Cod Special 80g and a Makaira 20000 so I have the hardware for a cow, the software (me!) is another thing entirely! I’ve caught 30# YFT on lighter spinners and got them to the boat quicker than with a conventional but a cow would another thing entirely.
     
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    FishRock I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Biggest mistake I see newer anglers make is letting the line go slack.

    Biggest mistake I make is pulling too hard and trying to kill a fish that is still green. No matter what you are fishing for if a fish is still very fresh it will go nuts if you put the wood to it too quickly. When that happens, bad things follow.

    As Fishbuzzy, Screamingreel and Wahoodad have all advised at times, keep steady pressure on the fish, do whatever it takes to keep that pressure on but be smooth and relax. Breath and think, two very challenging things to do when the adrenaline is pumping.
     
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    af dreamer I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Has anyone ever hand lined fish?If you have you know a rod is a detriment to land one.The more rod you use the more leverage you give the fish.Food for thought.Tom
     
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    It is never about anything more than getting line on your reel. That only works if you can get the head up on the fish. That only works if you have the most efficient and shortest stroke pull on the proper rod, which is really important. So the rod is really important but how you use the rod too. Every fight starts with how can i get that line on the reel the fastest way. And it is not sticking the rod out 90 degrees and waiting for the rod to relax so i can get a crank on it. Small hook you really gotta watch the jerky movement but do not compromise pressure. Big hook, you can corkscrew that fish in. So many fish are lost to sharks and chew offs or pulled hooks are because of time on the fish. A few fish are lost because the fish comes up too fast or green but in my mind i can appreciate that kind of loss.
     
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