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Objectivity is a philosophical concept of being true independently from individual subjectivity caused by perception, emotions, or imagination. A proposition is considered to have objective truth when its truth conditions are met without bias caused by a sentient subject. Wikipedia


Objectivity is a noun that means a lack of bias, judgment, or prejudice. Maintaining one's objectivity is the most important job of a judge.
Bro, you’re a copy and paste clown. Step up your game.
 

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Washington is ranked 12 in S&P+, 17th in Sagarin, and 18th in FPI. Like Hillary, you consistently go to the popular vote. :confused:
And lost to a four win Colorado team. You sure you want to be touting the huskies? :rofl:

Also seems that the PAC Championship game lost a little luster with Oregon going down. That link you provided had Ute fans whining about not getting enough attention for beating the Washi boys. Two things come to mind; was that you whining or are all Ute fans the same? Might want to keep that link active for use after the pac Championship game:cussing:
 

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And lost to a four win Colorado team. You sure you want to be touting the huskies? :rofl:

Also seems that the PAC Championship game lost a little luster with Oregon going down. That link you provided had Ute fans whining about not getting enough attention for beating the Washi boys. Two things come to mind; was that you whining or are all Ute fans the same? Might want to keep that link active for use after the pac Championship game:cussing:
PAC 12 is well known for it's parity which you construe to be weakness because you live by popular vote. Unlike the B1G, there is no easy road game in the PAC 12. There are no bye quality teams for DE's to pad their sac statistics.

AZ is ranked 3rd in the PAC 12 in rushing with 176 yards per game (Utah is #1) and Utah held them to 61 yards, 20 of which came in their lone scoring drive against Utah's 3s.

Last time Penn St came out here, they lost to USC. The MVP on defense for the game was a grad transfer (walk-on) from Utah who was not satisfied merely being in the 2 deep at Utah.

BTW that Colorado team beat Nebraska. So so I guess that means this win by Colorado should be significantly upgraded? Afterall the B1G is so deep in talented teams that any indirect win should be highly valued. I mean Nebraska started the season highly ranked.

Keep up the smack. You still have a road game at Meatchicken.
 
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Here's how our writers see the playoff field after Week 13. (Note: These are not their projections for how the season will end.)

Andrea Adelson: 1. LSU; 2. Clemson; 3. Ohio State; 4. Georgia
Edward Aschoff: 1. LSU; 2. Ohio State; 3. Clemson; 4. Georgia
Kyle Bonagura: 1. LSU; 2. Ohio State; 3. Clemson; 4. Utah
Bill Connelly: 1. Ohio State; 2. LSU; 3. Clemson; 4. Georgia
David Hale: 1. Ohio State; 2. LSU; 3. Clemson; 4. Georgia
Chris Low: 1. LSU; 2. Ohio State; 3. Clemson; 4. Georgia
Ivan Maisel: 1. Ohio State; 2. LSU; 3. Clemson; 4. Utah
Ryan McGee: 1. LSU; 2. Ohio State; 3. Clemson; 4. Oklahoma
Adam Rittenberg: 1. LSU; 2. Ohio State; 3. Clemson; 4. Georgia
Alex Scarborough: 1. LSU; 2. Ohio State; 3. Clemson; 4. Oklahoma
Mark Schlabach: 1. Ohio State; 2. LSU; 3. Clemson; 4. Georgia

Bama does not get even a single pick, Utah gets two. Georgia must still play LSU. If Georgia loses and Utah wins PAC 12, Utah is in. Pretty straightforward.

LSU has a pretty weak defense. UGA has a stout defense, but a weak offense. UGA's defense could bring Joe Burrow down a notch, but probably not enough to win.

Clemson faces no one and they barely beat UNC 21-20 by stopping a 2 point conversion. UNC has a losing record.
 

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The title pretty much says it all and I am not the only one: "first true test" and yet we know that Penn St. ain't all that.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...with-eyes-now-on-michigan-and-a-no-1-ranking/

Ohio State stumbles but passes first true test with eyes now on Michigan and a No. 1 ranking
A sloppy third quarter put pressure on the Buckeyes, but they emerged with another double-digit win



COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Pity is not the initial emotion you feel for Ohio State after Saturday. The No. 2 team in the nation has spent most of the last three months roasting opponents so crisp that having to extend itself into the fourth quarter was almost considered an upset on Saturday afternoon.

Aww, poor Buckeyes. They hadn't been tested. There are scores of teams across the country that have actually lost games, never mind having to play close.

If there is any pity to go around, it is to OSU's prior 10 opponents, none of which came within 24 points of it until Saturday. The Buckeyes actually tried to spin the "difficulty" of only beating No. 9 Penn State 28-17 as some sort of fact-finding mission.

That they now know more about themselves than at any other point this season.

"It was kind of our first true test," wide receiver Chris Olave said. "We found out our true colors."

Those true colors were stained with blood, bruises and blunders.

Sure, Ohio State created a little bit of its own drama, but drama it was nonetheless. On its way to running another opponent out of The Shoe, here came an upset of a different kind: The real kind with an "L" attached to it.

PAID CONTENT BY HIGH NOON HARD SELTZERTHINGS JUST GOT REAL.
Defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley said the notion had been nagging at the back of his mind most of the season. Yeah, the Buckeyes are great -- perhaps the most complete team in the country -- but what does it really mean until they match up with someone who punches back?

Penn State brought the boxing gloves, falling behind 21-0 and creeping back to within four before losing a top-10 showdown for the Big Ten East.

"That ought to tell you all you need to know," Hafley said. "You're getting hit in the face. You're getting hit in the ribs. You're about to go down. And you stand up and you fight back. It hasn't had to happen all year."

In clinching a spot in the Big Ten Championship Game for the third consecutive season, it's safe to say Ohio State played its "worst" game of the year.

There were four Ohio State fumbles (three lost), marking the first time in 138 games going back to 2009 the Buckeyes had lost that many fumbles in a game.

Heisman Trophy candidate Justin Fields had two of the turnovers. A third, late in the game, the quarterback recovered before laying briefly shaken up. That was the only thing that silenced the 105,000+ fans ready for another human (football) sacrifice.

The home schedule has concluded with Ohio State winning each of its seven games by an average of 37 points. Two top-10 opponents (Penn State, Wisconsin) was outscored here by a combined 59-24.

Coach Ryan Day tried to add some definition to the inevitable -- and sometimes monotonous wins -- by calling Saturday the beginning of the College Football Playoff. From here on out, the opposition really does get tougher. Next week, an improved Michigan. In two weeks after that, the Big Ten Championship Game. If everything goes right, the CFP.

"This was the first time we were really taking shots," said Day, now 11-0 as a first-time head coach at any level. "[Penn State scored] 14 straight points, and I'm not proud of that because we literally gave it to them. We handed them the ball."

A three-touchdown lead early in the second half almost seemed like six touchdowns. Ohio State's other Heisman candidate, defensive end Chase Young, played for the first time in three weeks. Young was mostly close-mouthed about the NCAA suspension that cost him two games. He picked up where he left off, though, with nine tackles, four tackles for loss and two forced fumbles.

"If you can't get hype for this, you're not that kind of dude," said the man who now holds the single-season school record with 16.5 sacks.

Penn State QB Sean Clifford was not only bothered by Young's harassment, he may not have been the Nittany Lions best signal caller. After Clifford was knocked out of the game in the third quarter, true freshman Will Levis entered to lead Penn State to 17 third-quarter points. Where had this kid been hiding? In the short time he played, Levis obviously had a better arm and better legs than Clifford, the Big Ten's No. 2 passer.

That will be a question this week for coach James Franklin. He'll also have to answer for punting twice in the first half in Ohio State territory (37, 42). Turns out those decisions might have made a difference with potential points left out on the field. When Penn State drew within 21-17 with 4:22 left in the third quarter, Ohio State had contributed mightily to the comeback.

J.K. Dobbins fumbled at his own 12. Three plays later, Levis plunged over the goal line to make it 21-14. On Ohio State's next drive, Fields fumbled at his own 35.

The resulting field goal drew the Nittany Lions to within four points. That was the end of Penn State's scoring on the day. The defense that had limited opponents to fewer than 10 points per game stiffened. Fields threw a magnificent 28-yard touchdown pass to Olave.

Our gambling friends in the desert won't be pleased that Ohio State (-19.5) did not cover, but like we said, pity was not the initial emotion.

"At the end of the day, it will be beneficial to us that we were in this game," said Ohio State center Josh Myers, "rather than if we were to blow them out. I think we got more out of today than we would had we blown them out."

That was the mentality. You knew which way Ohio State was headed offensively early on. The game-opening drive covered 91 yards in 13 plays, 12 of them runs. Dobbins ran for 157 yards. Both Dobbins (36) and Fields (21) had highs in rushing attempts.

"I want to reach my expectations," said Dobbins, the nation's No. 4 rusher. "I just haven't yet."

At least Dobbins got the workout he wanted. He went into the game averaging 4.2 carries in the second half. On Saturday, he had 25 in the final two quarters.

Now to bundle it all up as Ohio State hopes to make a push to No. 1 in the CFP Rankings this week. That means something here because whichever team is No. 1 most likely won't have to play Clemson, projected to finish No. 3, in one national semifinal.

Maybe LSU deserves to be No. 1 to this point with its four (at the time of kickoff) top-10 wins.

You can worry about such things when you're Ohio State.

For now, the Buckeyes like what they see staring back at them in the mirror.

"You don't see them with everything on the line," Day said. "Everything is on the line at that moment and everything's real and the momentum's going their way. You can feel it. And at that point, how do you have the strength to then turn the tide and get the momentum back toward you? That's not easy to do."

Please, don't feel sorry for these Buckeyes. The win was their 13th consecutive over a top 25 team, seventh straight over a top 10 team.

Bigger games are to come.

"I wished it could have been a little bit different, but I'm glad it happened," Hafley said of the close result. "Now you can learn from it. Now you know what you have. You have a team that's not going to quit."
 

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WTF ever happened to eye test and gut feelings? Just sayin! Utah vs. LSU in the final? Who wins? Utah defense or LSU offense? Or other combos! Oregon will play better but now my eye says Herbert is damaged goods! Or is he? Clemson? tOSU? Alabama will not make it! Georgia and Jake? I hope it winds up LSU and Utah! Then we shut down this whole thing with ZERO excuses! That said I still feel tOSU is still number 2 in the country and could beat LSU! I like LSU due to Coach O as the Trojans screwed up letting him go! Fight on! May the best team win!
 

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I always liked the Utah teams both BYU and Utah as Utah was crappy for so many years like the beavers and the Ducks! My how things have changed! Also Utah has a beautiful stadium. As do the Ducks! Oh yea, fuck Nike! Rant over!
 

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WTF ever happened to eye test and gut feelings? Just sayin! Utah vs. LSU in the final? Who wins? Utah defense or LSU offense? Or other combos! Oregon will play better but now my eye says Herbert is damaged goods! Or is he? Clemson? tOSU? Alabama will not make it! Georgia and Jake? I hope it winds up LSU and Utah! Then we shut down this whole thing with ZERO excuses! That said I still feel tOSU is still number 2 in the country and could beat LSU! I like LSU due to Coach O as the Trojans screwed up letting him go! Fight on! May the best team win!
The eye test doesn’t matter, unless it t’s eyes, just ask him.:D

LSU would win as Utah defense won’t be able to get off the field, and would run out of gas in the second half.

Oregon has no shot at playoffs, but they can certainly ruin Utah’s hopes.

Even though they haven’t played many good teams, Dabo and Clemson are dangerous. Georgia has stout D, but their offense has not been sharp this year.

Ex Buckeye Joe Burrow and the LSU tigers vs tOSU Buckeyes is a good storyline, and they have been the best two teams all season. With
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The eye test doesn’t matter, unless it t’s eyes, just ask him.:D

LSU would win as Utah defense won’t be able to get off the field, and would run out of gas in the second half.

Oregon has no shot at playoffs, but they can certainly ruin Utah’s hopes.

Even though they haven’t played many good teams, Dabo and Clemson are dangerous. Georgia has stout D, but their offense has not been sharp this year.

Ex Buckeye Joe Burrow and the LSU tigers vs tOSU Buckeyes is a good storyline, and they have been the best two teams all season. With View attachment 1092574Buckeyes winning the Natty:urno1:
Let’s make a wager. $100 says Utah makes the CFP.
 

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Let’s make a wager. $100 says Utah makes the CFP.
I think they will make it..But can they beat the ducks! 100.00? That's it?
 

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Let’s make a wager. $100 says Utah makes the CFP.
NO, I don’t give a shit if the Utes make it or not! Good luck to ya. I wouldn’t bet for or against them.

All you ever do is bash my team and the B1G, despite the Buckeyes being one of the best programs in the country.

While I like the competitive spirit and banter, I am pretty much done with the negative dumb shit t. It is taking some of the fun out of college football.

Win out and if all goes well, see you in the CFP
 

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NO, I don’t give a shit if the Utes make it or not! Good luck to ya. I wouldn’t bet for or against them.

All you ever do is bash my team and the B1G, despite the Buckeyes being one of the best programs in the country.

While I like the competitive spirit and banter, I am pretty much done with the negative dumb shit t. It is taking some of the fun out of college football.

Win out and if all goes well, see you in the CFP
All you’ve done is bash Utah and the PAC 12 and I do believe that you’ve initiated that in nearly every instance. To wit, you started this thread.
 

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I say make a 500.00 bet on who wins it all! I think it will be LSU or Ohio State! What say you?
 

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My Trojans won’t be there unless Colorado pulls a stunner! Love this!
 

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I want to see how Utah plays the big boys! Good defense but who knows? That’s why I love college football, and Boise, and App State etc! WTF is up with Baylor?
 

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NO, I don’t give a shit if the Utes make it or not! Good luck to ya. I wouldn’t bet for or against them.

All you ever do is bash my team and the B1G, despite the Buckeyes being one of the best programs in the country.

While I like the competitive spirit and banter, I am pretty much done with the negative dumb shit t. It is taking some of the fun out of college football.

Win out and if all goes well, see you in the CFP
The eye test doesn’t matter, unless it t’s eyes, just ask him.:D

LSU would win as Utah defense won’t be able to get off the field, and would run out of gas in the second half.

Oregon has no shot at playoffs, but they can certainly ruin Utah’s hopes.

Even though they haven’t played many good teams, Dabo and Clemson are dangerous. Georgia has stout D, but their offense has not been sharp this year.

Ex Buckeye Joe Burrow and the LSU tigers vs tOSU Buckeyes is a good storyline, and they have been the best two teams all season. With View attachment 1092574Buckeyes winning the Natty:urno1:
Don’t get mad, as this is fun! That is what college football is about! You’re passionate, I am passionate, and T is passionate and arrogant, but that is OK! You are arrogant too! Let’s have fun with this! Oh yea! Fight On!