Wahoo Advice

Discussion in 'San Diego Long Range fishing Reports' started by Trout.com, Oct 15, 2015.

  1. Trout.com

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    Hey Guys,

    Just wondering if I can get away fishing a 10.5" Marauder without wire? I know sometimes the bite is picky but I don't want to loose a 40 dollar plug.

    Thanks!
     
  2. reellady

    reellady I'd rather be catching TUNA

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    minimum 200# for trolling
     
  3. RichG

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    Decisions, decisions.. you don't have to wire the Marauder but you do increase your chances of having it bit off. If you are not going to use wire, I suggest some heavy flurocarbon. Maybe 200 pounds.
     
  4. walkerman

    walkerman I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I assume you will be trolling it...so I would use wire.
     
  5. bob1825

    bob1825 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I just got back from a 10 on the Excel on 10/7. I had rigged up three 300 pound fluorocarbon leaders to use with my marauders. However, it wasn't necessary to use them. We received multiple strikes/hooked the wahoo using wire leaders on the marauders, including me. They are out there and they are going to strike if you come across them.

    If you are concerned about losing a $40 lure then I would recommend sticking with the wire. I have the opposite view before I caught my first wahoo on the Excel. I paid $3200 for this trip, plus another $9,000 for three other trips and never caught a wahoo. If I thought that using fluorocarbon was the advantage I needed to catch one I wouldn't have hesitated to risk it. Good luck and let us know if you get one!
     
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  6. Trout.com

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    Really appreciate the insight. I am actually fishing from a skiff locally. I work Monday thru Friday so unfortunately the only time I have the fish is the weekends. I am trying to take advantage of the local wahoo bite in SoCal. I know there will be a lot of pressure on them, I always try to fish away from the pack. I know this is a long range forum but I figured there was way more knowledge here then on other forums.

    Thanks again guys.
     
  7. FilthyFishermanPhil

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    I caught a 67.5 lb Wahoo last week on the 9 mile bank trolling a "Tony the Tiger" Marauder with 275 wire. Use wire.
     
  8. afraser

    afraser I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    If you are the only one trolling, use wire. On a boat with 5 marauders being trolled? I use 300# fluoro.
     
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    I'm a 400# Fluoro guy for trolling bullet type lures for Wahoo. BIG fish will hit them so I rig them just like a Marlin Jig.

    For big plugs you want wire as the vibration will cut the fluoro quickly. Plenty marauders lost from them wearing through the wire too.
     
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  10. Bill W

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    You can install a thimble on plugs to keep them from wearing at the plug...
     
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  11. NaplesJohn

    NaplesJohn Never Forget 343

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    Jason was hot, think he went 4 for 4 on his first ever wahoo killing day...the next day I believe he paid the price for day one luck!
     
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  12. Steve K

    Steve K Hey, I'm gettin' bit...

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    "You can install a thimble on plugs to keep them from wearing at the plug..."


    Bill, is a little clear vinyl tubing sufficient or does it call for a chafe spring or thimble?
     
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    A chafing spring will work too... I have some plastic thimbles that work well with 400# and that was the first thing that came to mind.

    I have seen marauders lost when chafing gear was not used. Personally not warm and fuzzy about vinyl plastic for this if you are in troll jail.
     
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  14. riverplayer

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    Nope don't do it......Wahoo rarely hit a jig from behind, 90% of the time they hit it from the underside. Take a good look at a used jig at the "V" pattern bite mark. Short bites are very common on marauders because the fish literally sinks his teeth into the soft material causing it to pop out of their mouths instead of sliding through then eventually hooking the fish. That's why the Hopkins jigs were so popular in the 80's because they are so hard being metal they slipped right through the jaws hooking the fish. I have seen dozens of trap hooked hoo's come over the rail without a hook even near the mouth, but mostly right on top of the head, which I might add pisses the shit out of them. Always wire them, the fish don't give a shit....
     
  15. ReelDealAngler

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    180lb+ wire to a mcmahon snap has always worked for well for me (black steel snap allows for more wiggle on the plug and absorbs vibration better than a straight tie)... crimp both ends with a black ring or black barrel swivel for connection to main line, I use the black plastic guard that goes over the crimp at the lure and the top of the McMahon snap.

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  16. Pangamaster

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    Mauraders are designed to be fished short in the prop wash. Wire leader doesn't effect anything....stay with the plan!
     
  17. hucklongfin

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    We lost one on Excel where the Marauder wore through the wire.
     
  18. RichG

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    You can always lose one. I had a shark get one of mine. Suggest you replace your wire once in a while as well, I had one pull out of the crimp. Just getting a bit used.
     
  19. Squid Sammich

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    Guys here were running their marauders on heavy single strand claiming they got bit much better than those on 49 strand. I never fished with those guys or tried it to find out.
     
  20. Steve K

    Steve K Hey, I'm gettin' bit...

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    Think I'll go out to the tackle bag right now and snip off that 300 lb fluorocarbon leader from my Black and Purple Yo-Zuri Bonita. Wire it up on the boat next trip, January. If it's anything like last season, they'll be eating everything.
     

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