Value rods and reels

Discussion in 'Washington Fishing Reports' started by hawksfan75, Feb 21, 2018.

  1. FishPimpII

    FishPimpII Dreaming about the next boat...

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    This is an interesting discussion that would be well suited to have over beers sometime this spring.
    On the one hand I have the budget busting devil team Sency on one shoulder pointing out how a great rod or reel will be a family heirloom. On the other hand I really enjoy finding treasures. Especially older rods and reels that may be forgotten but have a great action or great design and can be had for a bargain if you shop around. (Metal body Bantam mag 251’s and older fenwick or lamiglas glass rods for example)
    As my budget has increased over the years I appreciate the action of the sage/loomis and islanders more and while I Don’t think it catches any more fish to fish that way the fight on smooth good equipment really does feel better to me, but I think as my kids get into Fishing it will be back to the ugly sticks and abu Garcia 6501’s for salmon for awhile for less stress.
    So while I agree with the fish what you can afford crowd I also think you can calculate in how less often you need to replace quality equipment and that may help justify spending a bit more for made in America or just quality made stuff in general.
     
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  2. yelloweye

    yelloweye Member

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    Steve
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    Daiwa M-One moocher on a Shimano Convergence rod for salmon trolling. Ugly stick tiger lite jig rods for a lot of halibut and tuna fishing. I've probably caught more halibut on a Penn 113H than most ever will. A very good cheap albacore reel is a Penn GTI 320 or 321 with the level wind removed; troll, jig, or livebait. Penn Jigmasters have probably caught more albacore than any other reel out there. BTW, if it isn't left hand retrieve, you won't see it on my boat.
     
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  3. gabe0308

    gabe0308 Well-Known "Member"

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    B'ham WA
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    Gabe
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    SAANAUK' (SEASPORT 24XL), Tlingit Princess (20' Wooldridge Sport Offshore)
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    The Shimano convergence rods are a great deal for a 10’6” rod. They are my go to downrigger rod. I started our with Abu Garcia reels but they seemed to go to shit once production went to China. Then swapped to Shimano TR reels, then Shimano Tekotas, then Shimano mooching reels, and have finally started to swap over to Islanders. You don’t have to start out with fancy expensive gear but I have taken the time to slowly upgrade over the last 15 years as able. Slowly converting my Penn Senator collection over to Avets now. I think one of your best bang for buck is the Avets as they can be used for most species. I use my MXL for salmon, tuna, lings, and halibut. Just throw on 50# braid and whatever topshot you need for the day.
     
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  4. Salmonmoocher

    Salmonmoocher "Holding My Own Rod"

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    Billy Bob
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    The Translation for Okuma = Piece of Shit. It costs me $162.50 per Halibut day to tie our boat up at NB. I will forego buying coffee at Fivebucks and take my lunch to work each day. I only buy the Best reels, maintain them and my Kids can figure out how to auction them off when I’m gone. Long live Avets, Tanacum Bulls and Tekota reels. As for the sticks they mount to, I prefer the Rainshadow, Super Seeker and Calstar homespun ones i build. It’s like buying cheap ammunition to hunt with...I only got so many more opportunities why waste them. Set your priorities and if She doesn’t like them then figure it out!:D
     
  5. Barracuda1

    Barracuda1 Master of None

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    X2!

    I have a few convergence rods Shimano 2000 GT's This combo has seen a lot of action and are completely bullet proof!
    Oh! and don't drive a fuckin Prius Eric! Keep a semblance of your manhood intact.
     
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  6. Chtucker

    Chtucker Lowe boat denter

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    Howard
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    Priorities- Drive a Prius = Islanders for meLOL

    I have both, value and nice (well actually I haven't fished the nice yet). There are lots of things that we buy because of want, not because of a requirement.
     
  7. Odin7

    Odin7 Odin7

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    George
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    I can give you the coordinates to a brand spanking new Penn Battle II and quality graphite rod.

    If you find it, I'll even give you the box the reel came in!
     
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  8. hawksfan75

    hawksfan75 More questions than answers

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    I’m 6’8” tall. No Prius driving for me
     
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  9. Fowlplay

    Fowlplay Well-Known "Member"

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    Mitchell
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    I reoutfit our tuna gear/salmon for the boat every couple of years for the last 15 years. I have fished everything from salmon and sturgeon gear when we first started to really high end gear(Shimano terez rods, talica and Tranx reels). The best budget livebait setups I have found would be Avet MXJs just under $200 on sale paired with Okuma Makaira 8ft medium heavy around $130 on Amazon the have a lifetime warranty. The cheapest livebait rod is a jackpole no reel needed.

    Salmon rod/reel combos on a budget would be okuma coldwater low profile reels around $85 on sale paired with the okuma guide selects around $100. Those reels are really smooth for the price.
     
  10. Captain Toeknee

    Captain Toeknee Newbie

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    Captain Tony
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    Bargain Basement salmon set up would have to be the Penn 209/Eagle Claw combo for $60 at LFS.

    My setups, all $200 or less, include:
    Salmon - Shimano Convergence $70 w/ Shimano Charter Special TR2000LD $130
    Tuna (live bait) and Lings - Shimano TDR $30 w/ Shimano TR200 $60
    Tuna (trolling) and Halibut - Okuma SST $55 w/ Penn Squall 40LD $130

    I enjoy fishing with this economical gear and it's kept my freezer full of fish. I've fished with fancier gear and it's cool to experience what a $500 rod/reel feels like but I don't need the expensive stuff to kill fish.
     
  11. Nosecrets

    Nosecrets Blackmouthers good side

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    I’m straight so therefore no Prius driving for me either
     
  12. FishPimpII

    FishPimpII Dreaming about the next boat...

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    I’m straight so I can drive a hybrid and not feel insecure about it.
    But I can’t fit in a Prius either so I’m Big ballin in a Camry!!
     
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  13. Mazu

    Mazu Member

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    I caught a shit ton of salmon on Daiwa Wilderness rods ($11 boat show special) and Penn $20 yard sale reels. Literally $30-40 setups.

    Then my yard sale days ended, and I caught a double shit ton of salmon on Shimano TDR rods and the same Penn 209 reels, but new. Probably $100 setups.

    Now I fish more expensive gear. Do I catch more fish? Maybe. But because of years of experience. Not because I spend more on equipment.

    I'd say there is NOTHING wrong with fishing with value gear. You're fishing, who cares what anybody else thinks.

    I'd also say there is nothing wrong with spending your discretionary cash on some stupid expensive fishing gear. Like Sency and some others said, nice gear is enjoyable to use.

    My biggest worry is that when I die, my wife will sell my fishing gear for what I SAID I paid for it.
     
  14. mrfish11

    mrfish11 "Ice Melter"

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    Please give her my number Leif.
     
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  15. Team Sency

    Team Sency Unleash the hounds!!

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    Leif....let’s keep this discretionary cash thing on the DL from the wives!!!
     
  16. USMC8541

    USMC8541 SOB!!!

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  17. cj6530

    cj6530 Member

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    For under 80 bucks you can convert your old Shimano Charter Special level wind to a topless version that is perfect for salmon, Albacore....whatever. IMG_0609.JPG
     
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  18. EJ Swanny

    EJ Swanny I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    What's funny is how everyone is saying "Oh, you pay alot for the quality up front and it will last". Guess what, if you paid for a Penn reel 50 years ago, and rinsed it off in fresh water now and again, it's still reeling in chromes just as good. Same with the Penns today. Sorry, not buying the 5 Benjamin reel. I think it's a waste of money and a "look at my shit" type of thing. My 2 cents...........
     
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  19. FishPimpII

    FishPimpII Dreaming about the next boat...

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    Ok. .02 more after getting a screaming deal on a used rod today.
    Don’t be afraid to buy quality used gear. Especially rods. It’s going to get a scratch if you catch a bunch of fish with it anyways so for the same price as that okuma find a used loomis or lami!
    I’ve had good luck with used reels too but I’m also willing to go through them and make sure everything is working myself so I make sure that’s figured into the price.
     
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  20. TwoTapPat

    TwoTapPat Oh ya that's jazzy

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    I hear a bus coming down the line. Run little buddy run. I won't tell if you take me fishin.
     

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