UNITED COMPOSITES RGP SERIES REVIEW PART 1... WOWO

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I have spent a great deal of time testing out the amazing new U.C. RGP Factory Wrap and GP Blanks at the shop. Not only have I and Captain Eric K. extensively played with each of the new GP products, but also have been fortunate enough to play with some of the yet un-released versions by U.C. employing this amazing new wrapping process. Just as importantly, I have also had many of our customers weigh in on their thoughts about the rods once I showed them how to maximize the potential of these very potent weapons.. For those who are unfamiliar, when I note the RGP version, I am referring to the Factory wrap model.. When I refer to the GP version it denotes the blanks.

Unlocking the secret of these rods is done by using techniques that bend these rods into their individual power sections to be found by bending into and beyond the reel seat. The majority of the lineup will seem to be a faster taper than their previous RUS and US counterparts but not all... If you take a look at the beautiful new woven mat finish of the rods you will see, once again, the stronger external wrap does not go all the way up to the tip of the blank... Rather, the guys at U.C., using their previous developed patterns and layups, have once again figured out how to get a softer upper/tip section of the blank, same as the US version, to feather into the areas of the new material thru the mid, lower and more powerful sections of the rod.. All this while retaining a small diameter and lighter weight rod. Due to the new wrap material running up to about 18 inches plus or minus from the Tip, the upper section might feel just a bit stiffer on many of the rods. No worries, you still have a small length of tip section that only needs to load up slightly when underhand lobbing or overhand casting a sardine...

Please note, in my opinion, I cannot make a general statement that each rod fishes up 1 or 2 line gauges from the previous iteration of the rod. Rather, each rod version will have it's own unique characteristics based on the original layup and manufacturing processes designed for each rod.. To say these rods are faster taper versions of the previous models, though true in most cases, does not actually do these new rods justice.. Just as importantly, I do not believe these rods will replace all the rods that went before under the CE or US designations, rather these rods will resonate with the many anglers who want and demand more power from their rods, especially for the end game of the fight. Again, technique will matter in order to really find the sweet spots of each of these rods.

Just as importantly, at the end game when you really put the wood to the fish, these rods will certainly expose any weak knots or connections as the power curve ramps up quickly...Though many anglers feel their rods are bottoming out, these rods have much more to go..Be aware of the difference. The ramp up of power, as the angler bends the rod into and thru the reel seat, is very, very fast and non linear. Those last few inches of bend into these lower sections ratchets up the power and recoil quickly, significantly, efficiently and effectively..

Not all rods are created equal.. The new material that U.C. has come up with basically replaces the previous versions of the outer skin of the U.S. wraps. Depending on how each previous iteration of the same name rods, ie mega, Monster, Terminator and Predator were laid up originally, the effect of the new material is very different between those iterations. For example, the effect of this new material on the GP 80 Terminator is very different than the effect on the new GP 80 Predator.. The difference between the GP 76 Predator is very different than the 80 Predator and the GP Monster variations are very different than all the other rods entirely...again due to variations in the layup process the manufacturer has employed to obtain what they believe is the ultimate solution.

The factory rods are now built with both Graphite as well as Alps reel seat options... Please be aware that the Alps reel seat version is more expensive than the graphite seat configuration. Both are great options and will be angler specific... Most folks will love the Alps aluminum seats but do not be afraid of the Graphite seat.. They are both very durable with the graphite being a slight bit lighter... Both balance extremely well with the appropriate reels of your choice... U.C. decided to use the very expensive, very light weight Alps Titanium guide sets with thinner diameter aft and fore-grips... These components, though much more expensive than other guide sets, are perfectly matched as they apply to these RGP products. Though the retail price of these RGP rods is higher than either the US or CE version, the unique feel of these factory wrap rods will be well worth the added cost for those who can bend these appropriately.. When most anglers pick these up out of the racks, they will know they have something special...

For Long range and tuna guys you have some amazing choices that can interact with the other rods in your quiver.. For local fishermen looking for a bit more power in a light weight package these just might be the ticket..The following are, in no particular order my take on the individual factory rods and blanks. Please remember, when I rate the rods for West Coast use, I figure the anglers will be using mono or flouro that break significantly above their rated line tests... If the angler is fishing a tournament line, such as Seaguar premier, that breaks at or below the line rating, this review might be a bit off.

RGP 76 Predator: I love the U.S. version for a light weight, strong 40 to light 60 pound stick, However, the new RGP version is off the chain great.. This version takes the capability of this rod to a much higher level for either stand up or rail usage...WOW.. Of the heavier string use rods, this one feels the lightest in weight yet performs like a heavier weight rod... Of course it is also 6 inches shorter than it's 8 foot brothers.. The rod is rated 50 - 100#. However, for our west coast use I find this version will really find its home in the strong 50 to strong 60 pound...It can also be used for a light 80 pound technical rod once you get the rod bent into the bottom section. I would say that this version is about 1 -1.5 line gauges higher than the US version.. This rod, matched with a medium framed reel will be amazing for those bigger Blue fin and Lupe Style Yellowfin.. It will also be an amazing bomb and heavier jig rod for fishing Wahoo... Fantastic, wide range of use, rod...

RGP 80 Predator: Though also rated 50 - 100#, in my opinion this rod is going to feel more appropriate for the lower range of the rating.. Although, when fully bent it will fish 60# I find the rod, for me, will be awesome for both light and heavy 50# use-age.. These rods will feel a bit more parabolic to some anglers at least until the rods bends towards the bottom of the stick.. This rod needs to be fully bent to get the most out of it. I would say this rod may be about .5 - 1 higher line rating than its RUS brother but still fishes bait easily and brilliantly due to its softest of series upper section..

RGP 80 Terminator: WOWO..This rod is AWESOME for those of us who want to put the wood to the fish. Though rated 30 to 80#, In my opinion, this rod is going to find its home in the higher ranges of the rating... Like the RUS Terminator, the rod does not fish the way it looks or feels prior to bending...Some anglers first pick up the US version and think it is too fast... The angler really needs to pull on them to see the brilliance of both the US and GP styles. When the RUS Terminator first was offered to the public, I rated it as a great 40# stick based on most 40# lines breaking around 48+ pounds. The new RGP Terminator, though rated slightly lower than the Predators, seems to me like it has the most power of the entire GP series..I would say this rod can easily fish 2 -2.5 line ratings above it's RUS brother. yet stays light and mobile... You may be shocked at the power of this rod.. This is definitely a rod where the user's better fish fighting technique will be rewarded in spades once they get the rod to bend into the lower section of the rod.. Though definitely a Tuna stick this rod will be also be great for throwing Bombs and heavier Jigs to Wahoo.

RGP 80, 85 and 90 Mega: Nothing Short of Phenomenal for lighter wt. artificial lures and bait... Across all the Mega lengths the U.C. guys have nailed a rod that really fishes a wide range of line tests.. Rated 20 to 50 #, I see these as rods that can easily fish 25 -40 # with little weakness at any line rating.. All lengths will fish bait or smaller, lighter weight surface iron, jigs, poppers, snipers (Though most anything can throw a sniper) and stick baits BRILLIANTLY. Local fishing or technical, lighter weight long range fishing, these rods will absolutely be fantastic and fun to use... Open face reel or Bait caster will be awesome with these sticks. Again, like all of the GP series, the rods find an extra gear when bending into the lower portion of the rod... Really an amazing performer..

Again, No angler needs to get rid of their previous iterations of rods that they love regardless of the manufacturer... These GP series are going to be rods that anglers want to introduce into their arsenals to fill in previous holes in their quivers... These will also be different than previous rods due to their generally faster taper design and ability to ramp up power beautifully, packaged with smaller diameter grip sections and a wonderful light weight feel. For those who wished their rods had just a bit more oomph near the end of the fight but still want to fish lighter tips, the GP series might just fit those voids... However, for some of the folks who are pulling on them, they are buying multiple rods in the series...

BE AWARE, PURCHASING THESE NEW GP AND RGP RODS MAY TURN INTO AN ADDICTION.. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.. Of course, most all of us are addicted to fishing so Oh Well..

For those who wish to try these rods and blanks for themselves, we have most all of the versions, with both graphite and Alps reel seats in stock at Bob Sands Tackle.... Be Aware, With the great sale we are offering, these items are going fast.. For those who wish to ask more questions you are welcome to PM me and I will provide my Phone number... I am happy to discuss these rods, our sales pricing or any other fishing questions you might have..

Stay Tuned for Part two..
 
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My Pleasure guys. Thank You for the kind words.
I really appreciate it.

Jamie
 
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I have 2 Predators that I took to Guadalupe last fall. Used them for 40 and 50lb. Bite was tough on 50. Got 2 on 40lb and love how the Predator handled 40 on a very tight drag with 21#'s. I'm gonna try the new GP80 Terminator for my 40 set up to replace the Pred. Also will try a GP80 Pred. Will then have 3 Predators for my 50# tuna bait, wahoo bomb and iron set ups.
 
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Good morning PH,

You might find that GP Terminator is too much stick for your 40 Pound work. My opinion is the GPT is much more powerful than the U.S. 80 Predator.. I look forward to hearing your take on it...

Jamie
 
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Good morning PH,

You might find that GP Terminator is too much stick for your 40 Pound work. My opinion is the GPT is much more powerful than the U.S. 80 Predator.. I look forward to hearing your take on it...

Jamie
oh my.....I'm gonna pull on them and maybe stick with the 80 Predator for my 40. Thanks!!
 
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    Jamie please stop with the reviews already these rods are like crack. I started with two GP 80 predators a little while ago and kept going from there. Now I’m waiting for two GP 80 terminators, a GP90 mega and a GP 90 monster to be wrapped and left deposit for additional blank which was not in stock. Make it stop!
     
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    Bob Sands

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    Hi Dan,

    Sorry it took so long to get back to you. As far as the RGP Mega 80, Depending on your application, the Mega will fish 40# test. I believe it will be brilliant for a wide range of applications. Like all 40 Pound rods, this is going to be a Your personal feel sort of thing.. This Mega is such a wide range of use stick that it will feel different in your hands than anything you probably have picked up before..

    Very light weight, feels light weight in its usage, Active tip for bait and Will cast lighter surface iron, lighter Poppers and Colt Snipers brilliantly. When the angler bends it towards the reel seat while fighting a fish, using proper 40 pound string drag settings, this rod may just turn out to be your favorite all around 20 - 40 pound 8 foot stick in your arsenal.

    Again, This RGP 80 Mega will fish nothing like the current US Terminator, US 76 HP or similar rods. The RGP 80 Mega, Lives as a rod the feels like the base of the rods is below those amazing US version performers but with more action in the upper sections.. But don't let the light weight throw you off as the Mega's are serious business rods. The RGP and GP versions of the series are off the chain great. Very personal feel sort of thing.. Especially for so many West Coasters who are used to heavier, larger tipped rod. I am absolutely loving the GP and RGP Mega's so far in all the lengths..

    Jamie
     
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    Hi Dan,

    Sorry it took so long to get back to you. As far as the RGP Mega 80, Depending on your application, the Mega will fish 40# test. I believe it will be brilliant for a wide range of applications. Like all 40 Pound rods, this is going to be a Your personal feel sort of thing.. This Mega is such a wide range of use stick that it will feel different in your hands than anything you probably have picked up before..

    Very light weight, feels light weight in its usage, Active tip for bait and Will cast lighter surface iron, lighter Poppers and Colt Snipers brilliantly. When the angler bends it towards the reel seat while fighting a fish, using proper 40 pound string drag settings, this rod may just turn out to be your favorite all around 20 - 40 pound 8 foot stick in your arsenal.

    Again, This will fish nothing like the current US Terminator, US 76 HP or similar rods as the RGP 80 Mega, Lives below those amazing performers but with more action in the upper sections.. Very personal feel sort of thing.. Especially for so many West Coasters who are used to heavier, larger tipped rod.. I am loving it so far.

    Jamie

    Thanks Jamie, I was going back and forth with Jake on a new 40lb bait stick. He had just got off the phone with Randy I believe and he had recommended this stick to Jake for 40lb. Neither of us has pulled on it so I'll be stopping by the booth and going through the rod rack pulling on them. I have a US Terminator and love it but was looking for something to add to the quiver.

    Thanks for taking the time to answer the question. I'll come by the booth Thursday at the show and introduce myself and say Thank you in person

    Dan
     
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    Went on the Shogun last week Used my RPG Terminator for the first time paired with a Torque 40nld2. Torque filled with Seaguar threadlock hollow 80lb. Top shot of 55lb Seaguar fxr flouro.(IMPO The best flourocarbon). Set it up for sinker rig. Hooked and destroyed 3 60-80lb. Bluefin. IMPO The Best 60lb. Or even 80lb. Rod I've ever fished with! Jaime is Dead On with his description on the action of this Gem. A True Big Fish Killer. Im having a Custom one built as we speak. I sold the factory one to a guy on BD. He went out the next day on the tribute and Destroyed 2 monsters on it. Thanks Jaime for all the Great info on this series of United Composites Rods!!