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Just finished watching this film and it really is thought provoking.

Not much into politics, but damn, it kind of makes one think...

 

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I just finished watching it. I wish more and more people would watch this thought provoking documentary, we know the media will not push it. I think a lot of people would possibly change their party preference or at least question their beliefs that they think are self evident

I have been a huge fan of Larry Elder since I was a kid listening to him on KFI when my mom would pick me from school. (Handel was on in the morning)

Well fast forward 20 years and you have a President who some don’t like and peoples hate of this person leads them to abandon their whole system of previous political belief based entirely on one person. It is mind blowing to me. I am not saying you have to like him or hate him, I am just deeply disturbed by peoples willingness to give up previously held conservative beliefs to jump ship to the democratic party who now more closely aligns with a socialist party now than the Democratic Party has in the past 50 years.

I just hope more people wake up and realize one person doesn’t define a system of beliefs.
 

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"Capt".... I agree with you. The next question..... what about the "spineless" Senators.... Governors. ... and other political "me too's".... who have done nothing but cower in their boots ... afraid of the endless "Twitter rants" and disapproval from that "one" person?

They too have completely abandoned the traditional conservative ideals.... to ride on the coat tail of the "leader" .... even if it's against both common sense.... and their constituents wishes. All to keep their own political careers "afloat".

The "Three Ring Circus" our country has become .... is a shame. The real winners.... are not you and I brother.. or AMERICA. We have lost respect in every corner of the world.... and are the "laughing stock" in many nations.... even those who once had our back.

"Divide and conquer".... used by our leader to win votes..... is also the same "strategy" our ememies have utilized for decades! But now they don't need to initiate anything... they just WATCH .... waiting for the right time. Remember the saying "United we stand, Divided we fall"?

I have said many times here...I'm not a fan of either the red or the blue. But to stand by and watch.... is very painful for many patriots like us brother.
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Happy Independence Day!
 
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"Capt".... I agree with you. The next question..... what about the "spineless" Senators.... Governors. ... and other political "me too's".... who have done nothing but cower in their boots ... afraid of the endless "Twitter rants" and disapproval from that "one" person?

They too have completely abandoned the traditional conservative ideals.... to ride on the coat tail of the "leader" .... even if it's against both common sense.... and their constituents wishes. All to keep their own political careers "afloat".

The "Three Ring Circus" our country has become .... is a shame. The real winners.... are not you and I brother.. or AMERICA. We have lost respect in every corner of the world.... and are the "laughing stock" in many nations.... even those who once had our back.

"Divide and conquer".... used by our leader to win votes..... is also the same "strategy" our ememies have utilized for decades! But now they don't need to initiate anything... they just WATCH .... waiting for the right time. Remember the saying "United we stand, Devided we fall"?

I have said many times here...I'm not a fan of either the red or the blue. But to stand by and watch.... is very painful for many patriots like us brother.
🇺🇸

Be safe out there.
Happy Independence Day
I agree completely and had this very same discussion tonight with someone. I think both sides of the aisle have become an absolute shit show. It is a race to the bottom to pander to your base regardless of side.

This whole cycle has really shown what’s important to those in office and my hope is more will open their eyes come election time of who they really want. (Again, regardless of party) The unfortunate part is it all comes down to money and an incumbent stands a much better shot because the money is typically already in their pocket.
 

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The system is broken I have no faith in ANY of the knuckle heads in suits, My kids are in their early twentys and tripping on the up coming election and the circus our "So called leader" has put us in.... What a fuckin mess!
 

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Brother it's up to US.... to keep hope alive for THEIR generation. I still believe in AMERICA..... even at this "questionable" way point on our journey as a Nation.

We've made a mess.... for their generation. That doesn't sit well with me either. We both know .... In our old age we will need their "clarity" to shape AMERICA'S future... better than we did.

Give them the reassurance.... that each vote counts.... for if they feel "helpless" and "hopeless".... Our country is doomed.

We need their support..... and they need ours. Not easy brother.... but certainly worth the overwhelming effort it will take to clean things up.
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Be safe out there.
 

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My daughter actually told me at lunch the other day she’s not sure she wants to bring a kid into this world at this point with everything going on...broke my fucking heart!
 

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One idea my buddy and I talked about, but it would never in a million years work because it would be career ending for politicians Is a two parter. Lifetime term limits requiring a progression upwards in political office. Meaning you have to be on the city level then advance to the county, then to the state. Two or 3 terms each level, if you don’t make the cut you are out.

The second part of that is once on the state level or national level, you will no longer be allowed to work or set up charities or the like when you are termed out. You are done, retired, that’s it, you will be paid the national median wage for the rest of your life which is I think $65-$70k. You cannot be hired as a corporate consultant for $500k a year for a corporation that you helped while in office or do speaking engagements for $100k a pop, any book deal would need to be free or money to charity which you are not taking a dime from.

I know that theory goes against a lot of rights but at least you would know what your getting a politician that wants to do good and the politician would know that going in. It would be like the founding fathers, they wanted what was best for this country, they served their constituents then went back to their farms or businesses, they didn’t make a career out of pandering.

Of course this is all a pipe dream because they would find some loophole to get money via their spouse or child, but I think you get the point I am trying to make.
 

woodfish330

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Original "Democrocies".... and a few of today's worldwide success stories are a run little different..... then the current American "fiasco". Let me explain.

First..... The "peoples" delegates are not voted in..... they are chosen at random.... from the general public...like "jury duty". ALL people of the state.... regardless of personal beliefs.... age... ethnicity. ... As long as they are "citizens" can be "drawn". They continue to draw their "regular day job" pay.... and that's all. Everyone..... scholars.... busboys.... managers.... mechanics.... teachers... ALL OF US.

Now here's the BIG differance.....term is 1 year ONLY. After that.... they return to their original "job".... without loss of seniority or regular benifits.

Now these "delegates" have the duty to propose / bring forth any new legislation. ....BUT CANNOT VOTE FOR THOSE LAWS during their "service".. Their job is strictly to write the "proposals"....THAT'S ALL. NO INFLUENCE peddling. ... no Life long politicians.... your term is 1 YEAR.

Any and all of these "proposals"..... are voted on by ALL of the state's citizens.... twice a year. If it passes.... or fails IT'S UP TO THE STATES CITIZENS.... Not the "ELECTED" Officials..... to shape the future of the Democracy.... and the laws used to govern the people.

No More.... "lobbyists"!
No More "Career Politicians"!
No More ENDLESS Political fundraising and spending.... twisting the truths.
NO More Pensions for those who stack their political jobs to get more.from the "people".... upon retirement. (Career politicians)
NO MORE "Nepotism"....
This list can go on and on.
CLEANS OUT THE "SWAMP" FOR SURE!

THAT IS THE DEMOCRACY our forefathers saw..... BY THE PEOPLE.... FOR THE PEOPLE. Not the current.... by the politicians. ... for the "few". (Don't you "Owe"us a "FAVOR" Senator.. for our contributions?)

Think about it! It's BOLD... PURE and SIMPLE. IT could easily work here... effectively eliminating MUCH of what wrong in politics today. Back to basics.
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Be safe out there.
 
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Original "Democrocies".... and a few of today's worldwide success stories are a run little different..... then the current American "fiasco". Let me explain.

First..... The "peoples" delegates are not voted in..... they are chosen at random.... from the general public...like "jury duty". ALL people of the state.... regardless of personal beliefs.... age... ethnicity. ... As long as they are "citizens" can be "drawn". They continue to draw their "regular day job" pay.... and that's all. Everyone..... scholars.... busboys.... managers.... mechanics.... teachers... ALL OF US.

Now here's the BIG differance.....term is 1 year ONLY. After that.... they return to their original "job".... without loss of seniority or regular benifits.

Now these "delegates" have the duty to propose / bring forth any new legislation. ....BUT CANNOT VOTE FOR THOSE LAWS during their "service".. Their job is strictly to write the "proposals"....THAT'S ALL. NO INFLUENCE peddling. ... no Life long politicians.... your term is 1 YEAR.

Any and all of these "proposals"..... are voted on by ALL of the state's citizens.... twice a year. If it passes.... or fails IT'S UP TO THE STATES CITIZENS.... Not the "ELECTED" Officials..... to shape the future of the Democracy.... and the laws used to govern the people.

No More.... "lobbyists"!
No More "Career Politicians"!
No More ENDLESS Political fundraising and spending.... twisting the truths.
NO More Pensions for those who stack their political jobs to get more.from the "people".... upon retirement. (Career politicians)
NO MORE "Nepotism"....
This list can go on and on.
CLEANS OUT THE "SWAMP" FOR SURE!

THAT IS THE DEMOCRACY our forefathers saw..... BY THE PEOPLE.... FOR THE PEOPLE. Not the current.... by the politicians. ... for the "few". (Don't you "Owe"us a "FAVOR" Senator.. for our contributions?)

Think about it! It's BOLD... PURE and SIMPLE. IT could easily work here... effectively eliminating MUCH of what wrong in politics today. Back to basics.
🇺🇸

Be safe out there.
founding fathers did not create a demoracy, they created a republic. there is a difference.
 

woodfish330

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Your right.... they didn't create a "demoracy"..... brother.

My point is the "CLOWNS" have taken over the "circus". It's not "by the people... for the people.... of the people"..... and hasnt been for decades. Time to remember what real "Democracy" looks like. This is not it. Flush the swamp.... All colors.... Red or blue.

As Americans..... we could do SO MUCH BETTER... FOR ALL AMERICANS. NOT JUST THE RICH.... CONNECTED. ...AFFLUENT. ...deciding what will make them richer.... While getting reelected. The average working citizen has been screwed "et nauseum" for decades. Time for some changes.
 
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I just finished watching it. I wish more and more people would watch this thought provoking documentary, we know the media will not push it. I think a lot of people would possibly change their party preference or at least question their beliefs that they think are self evident

I have been a huge fan of Larry Elder since I was a kid listening to him on KFI when my mom would pick me from school. (Handel was on in the morning)

Well fast forward 20 years and you have a President who some don’t like and peoples hate of this person leads them to abandon their whole system of previous political belief based entirely on one person. It is mind blowing to me. I am not saying you have to like him or hate him, I am just deeply disturbed by peoples willingness to give up previously held conservative beliefs to jump ship to the democratic party who now more closely aligns with a socialist party now than the Democratic Party has in the past 50 years.

I just hope more people wake up and realize one person doesn’t define a system of beliefs.
Larry Elder supports President Trump now more than ever, as a person and the president. Go figure for a “Man of Color “. I have followed Larry Elder for many years. He has a great mind and command of the English language. A person with firm conservative beliefs will not jump to the democratic/socialist/marxist party as it now has become. Just not possible for a reasonable conservative. When many have to give up their gas boat for a peddle, sail or electric boat for the green new deal after your taxes are raised so people can pay their fair share I’m sure the joy of getting even with the not so sensitive President Trump will be well worth it. If not there’s always a safe space somewhere. Handel is is a liberal wind bag in my opinion pretending to be a reasonable centrist. Since Trump took office I have made a lot more money, bought great tackle and caught bucket list fish on excellent trips with my added income. I’m all good. I heard Larry talking about the film and will watch it soon enough, I’m sure it will be informative. Thanks for sharing.
 
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kindafishy

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Your right.... they didn't create a "demoracy"..... brother.

My point is the "CLOWNS" have taken over the "circus". It's not "by the people... for the people.... of the people"..... and hasnt been for decades. Time to remember what real "Democracy" looks like. This is not it. Flush the swamp.... All colors.... Red or blue.

As Americans..... we could do SO MUCH BETTER... FOR ALL AMERICANS. NOT JUST THE RICH.... CONNECTED. ...AFFLUENT. ...deciding what will make them richer.... While getting reelected. The average working citizen has been screwed "et nauseum" for decades. Time for some changes.
again brother, we where never intended to be a democracy, but a republic. we are headed for a "real democracy" now. if you don't like the way things are heading, then you don't want a democracy. especially a "real" one. by the way, are you hulk hogan? i've noticed a the prolific use of "BROTHER" :D

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Original "Democrocies".... and a few of today's worldwide success stories are a run little different..... then the current American "fiasco". Let me explain.

First..... The "peoples" delegates are not voted in..... they are chosen at random.... from the general public...like "jury duty". ALL people of the state.... regardless of personal beliefs.... age... ethnicity. ... As long as they are "citizens" can be "drawn". They continue to draw their "regular day job" pay.... and that's all. Everyone..... scholars.... busboys.... managers.... mechanics.... teachers... ALL OF US.

Now here's the BIG differance.....term is 1 year ONLY. After that.... they return to their original "job".... without loss of seniority or regular benifits.

Now these "delegates" have the duty to propose / bring forth any new legislation. ....BUT CANNOT VOTE FOR THOSE LAWS during their "service".. Their job is strictly to write the "proposals"....THAT'S ALL. NO INFLUENCE peddling. ... no Life long politicians.... your term is 1 YEAR.

Any and all of these "proposals"..... are voted on by ALL of the state's citizens.... twice a year. If it passes.... or fails IT'S UP TO THE STATES CITIZENS.... Not the "ELECTED" Officials..... to shape the future of the Democracy.... and the laws used to govern the people.

No More.... "lobbyists"!
No More "Career Politicians"!
No More ENDLESS Political fundraising and spending.... twisting the truths.
NO More Pensions for those who stack their political jobs to get more.from the "people".... upon retirement. (Career politicians)
NO MORE "Nepotism"....
This list can go on and on.
CLEANS OUT THE "SWAMP" FOR SURE!

THAT IS THE DEMOCRACY our forefathers saw..... BY THE PEOPLE.... FOR THE PEOPLE. Not the current.... by the politicians. ... for the "few". (Don't you "Owe"us a "FAVOR" Senator.. for our contributions?)

Think about it! It's BOLD... PURE and SIMPLE. IT could easily work here... effectively eliminating MUCH of what wrong in politics today. Back to basics.
🇺🇸

Be safe out there.
Which successful country(ies)? PRC?

And yes, NOT a democracy, a plural democracy that is supposed to be inefficient. Keeps New York and LA from running the country, hence two Senators from every state. And 51% is not a democracy either, the CA proposition system is a great example of that, no one is accountable, confusing language, such great wins as Prop 47 and attempts to unwind Prop 13, by naming it Prop 13.

It’s supposed to be messy. That’s the point. Im the end, we are all still going to be stuck here staring at each other.