Tuna in American waters?

theredman

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Any tuna (yellowfin or skippies) in American waters? Would like to launch out of Dana, Oside or Mission Bay?
 

Shewillbemine

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Just get a Mexican fishing license and get over that border! It's no big deal and totally worth it for the tonnage.
 
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gonzo25

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Passports are required. just because a law isn't enforced doesn't mean it isn't the law and could be at any time. even the u.s. requires a passport to leave or re-enter the u.s. just an fyi for those of you smart enough to check it out for yourself if you think i am wrong;
 
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Passports are required. just because a law isn't enforced doesn't mean it isn't the law and could be at any time. even the u.s. requires a passport to leave or re-enter the u.s. just an fyi for those of you smart enough to check it out for yourself if you think i am wrong;
That's incorrect. If you are outside of 12 miles from any Mexican land, you are only required a license. How do you think all these sport boats get away with these trips not requiring passports?
 

gonzo25

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Billy is right about the U.S. requirement, if your inside 12 miles the Mexicans require a visa. When the Mexican navy issued their requirements to fish within 12 miles they ended the statement with, outside of 12 miles you will only need a fishing license and a passport. with the way Mexico makes their rules, and the Navy are the ones enforcing them, I would never tell anyone they didn't need a passport outside of 12 miles. if you read international law that 12 miles is supposed to be from the mainland, not the Islands, but Mexico will make it whatever they want to.
The border patrol has a statement out saying that they don't consider a boat going into Mexican waters and then coming back into u.s. waters has left the country unless it has made port, made land, or made contact with another boat, which is the most deceiving and misleading bullshit i have ever heard. People reading this think that they aren't going to be stopped and checked out or that they wouldn't need a visa to get back into the country, what is it that you think this agency does? or homeland security or the coast guard? This is their job I think the sport boats have some kind of agreement with the Mexicans myself, but like I said and you obviously missed... "just because a law isn't enforced doesn't mean that it isn't the law and maybe at any time." I have seen a lot of stuff about this on line, saying you don''t need a passport past 12 miles, none of it quotes any official statements from Mexico, they all refer to what the sport boats requirements are. Look at all the confusion surrounding getting a visa for on the water, even different Mexican services give the wrong information about where and from whom you can get an on the water visa, but the bottom line is the only place you can get an on the water visa is from the Mexican Navy. For those of you thinking that the sportboats/landings can't have an agreement with the Mexicans let me remind you that when this shit all started the Mexicans tried to work with the sportboats and let them sell vias/fmm so they could keep their business moving smoothly and the sportboats said fuck you we have never had to do this before and we aren't doing it... So the Mexicans said no, fuck you get your gringo ass out of our country and closed fishing at the coronados for a year to the sport boats. any of you remember that? and you don't think that the Mexican Navy sets the rules for what happens on the water in Mexico?
When i have read a statement from the Navy saying they want to see a passport, and it is a requirement here too, I won't tell someone they don't need one because if that goes sideways i wouldn't want to be the one responsible for their problem.
Personally I follow the CYA rule and for something that took one trip to downtown and I got it in three days and only costs $15 a year why wouldn't you?
Why do people make such a big thing out of getting a passport? they are easier and less money than getting a drivers license
 
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Shewillbemine

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Billy is right about the U.S. requirement, if your inside 12 miles the Mexicans require a visa. When the Mexican navy issued their requirements to fish within 12 miles they ended the statement with, outside of 12 miles you will only need a fishing license and a passport. with the way Mexico makes their rules, and the Navy are the ones enforcing them, I would never tell anyone they didn't need a passport outside of 12 miles. if you read international law that 12 miles is supposed to be from the mainland, not the Islands, but Mexico will make it whatever they want to.
The border patrol has a statement out saying that they don't consider a boat going into Mexican waters and then coming back into u.s. waters has left the country unless it has made port, made land, or made contact with another boat, which is the most deceiving and misleading bullshit i have ever heard. People reading this think that they aren't going to be stopped and checked out or that they wouldn't need a visa to get back into the country, what is it that you think this agency does? or homeland security or the coast guard? This is their job I think the sport boats have some kind of agreement with the Mexicans myself, but like I said and you obviously missed... "just because a law isn't enforced doesn't mean that it isn't the law and maybe at any time." I have seen a lot of stuff about this on line, saying you don''t need a passport past 12 miles, none of it quotes any official statements from Mexico, they all refer to what the sport boats requirements are. Look at all the confusion surrounding getting a visa for on the water, even different Mexican services give the wrong information about where and from whom you can get an on the water visa, but the bottom line is the only place you can get an on the water visa is from the Mexican Navy. For those of you thinking that the sportboats/landings can't have an agreement with the Mexicans let me remind you that when this shit all started the Mexicans tried to work with the sportboats and let them sell vias/fmm so they could keep their business moving smoothly and the sportboats said fuck you we have never had to do this before and we aren't doing it... So the Mexicans said no, fuck you get your gringo ass out of our country and closed fishing at the coronados for a year to the sport boats. any of you remember that? and you don't think that the Mexican Navy sets the rules for what happens on the water in Mexico?
When i have read a statement from the Navy saying they want to see a passport, and it is a requirement here too, I won't tell someone they don't need one because if that goes sideways i wouldn't want to be the one responsible for their problem.
Personally I follow the CYA rule and for something that took one trip to downtown and I got it in three days and only costs $15 a year why wouldn't you?
Why do people make such a big thing out of getting a passport? they are easier and less money than getting a drivers license
If one isn't a US Citizen (but here legally) it is a significantly different process to get a passport.
 

plj46

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How did this go from "Tuna in American waters" to passport requirements ? Geez.
 

gonzo25

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If one isn't a US Citizen (but here legally) it is a significantly different process to get a passport.
IF one isn't a US citizen and is here legally then they will have a passport issued by the country they are a citizen of and the paper work showing they are here legally, so I'm missing your point. I believe you have to be a US citizen to get a US passport
 

Shewillbemine

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IF one isn't a US citizen and is here legally then they will have a passport issued by the country they are a citizen of and the paper work showing they are here legally, so I'm missing your point. I believe you have to be a US citizen to get a US passport
I know you're die hard about your passport position because you've painted yourself into a corner.

But you do know passports expire right? And when you said it's so easy to get a passport, I'm reminding you that not everyone who fishes is a US citizen who can easily get a passport.

I'm basically reminding you that you asked why not everyone brings a passport and I gave you one scenario in which it would be more difficult to get one than what you're assuming.

But carry on. You were in the middle of lecturing the internet about passports.
 
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What is the limit / regs on Yellowfin and Bft in California?
 

gonzo25

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I know you're die hard about your passport position because you've painted yourself into a corner.

But you do know passports expire right? And when you said it's so easy to get a passport, I'm reminding you that not everyone who fishes is a US citizen who can easily get a passport.

I'm basically reminding you that you asked why not everyone brings a passport and I gave you one scenariot in which it would be more difficult to get one than what you're assuming.

But carry on. You were in the middle of lecturing the internet about passports.
I must be missing something here. yes I know a passport expires, they are good for 10 years. Please explain how i am painting myself in a corner because i missed that too. And tell me, do you have a passport?
You don't have to be a US citizen to fish. If you are not a US citizen but you are in the US legally, then you do have a passport, it's just not a US passport, you can't be here legally if you don't have one. So I am not getting your point or your scenario is just bullshit. Now aside from all of that I am sure that the majority of people reading this are US citizens and if they aren't then I am addressing those who are, and for those who are I don't understand the worry and stress of not having one.... it's like driving with out a drivers license, if there isn't a reason that you can't get one, unpaid tickets or whatever, why worry and stress and risk going to jail every time you get behind the wheel when you can just get one.

Either I am missing something in your scenario or your not giving all the details.

Do you understand why I want to see these guys comply with what they want? It puts no money in my pocket... but it is just a matter of time before the Mexicans get tired of putting up with this bulshit and just say fuck all of them and close fishing to everyone down there all together. you saw what happened to the sportboats when they refused to get visa/fmm for there passengers didn't you? Shit they weren't even checking the p.b. at the time.
 

gonzo25

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Didn't see squat in O-side today. Nothing on the meter, nothing in the spread and no one pulling them over the rail.
Thanks for the report, I was looking at the water temps and it is much warmer up there and I was wondering if they have been catching anything.
 
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