TROLLING LONG RANGE

fyermn

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On Long Range boats, since most anglers are using spectra, how much mono should be used for trolling (Wahoo or Tuna)? I realize that mono has stretch in it, but should you be using a long top-shot of mono for the stretch, or a shorter piece so that the hook gets set quickly? I am going out in a month on an 8 day, and I an just wondering if I should use a longer or shorter top-shot of mono. I use about 2 ft. of 200-250# of fluorocarbon to the lure.
 

mmayo

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I’m not sure I know what is best but I use a boat length of mono. Stuff happens on the troll. When lots of folks toss out in the slide and you are hooked up you can get seriously tangled. If you just have spectra it can not only take a long time to get out of it and can be expensive when they cut your line.
 

FishRock

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I think a boat length or whatever length covers the distance to your trolling lure. I have used boat gear that had the right length so that all I had to do is let out the trolling lure until I got to the connection to the spectra. Worked fine.
 

DannyNoonan

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My trolling setup is old school - penn 114h with straight 80# mono on a 5-1/2' rod. Short wire bite leader to the lure itself. PERFECT setup for wahoo trolling. You don't need to worry about setting the hook - the boat will do that for you just fine as long as the hook is SHARP. Lots of stretch with mono to keep the hook planted, short rod for plenty of leverage, cheap so I don't get too worked up if it gets abused, and I don't worry about losing expensive spectra for whatever reason. I save the fancy stuff for bait fishing...
 

jer dog

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On Long Range boats, since most anglers are using spectra, how much mono should be used for trolling (Wahoo or Tuna)? I realize that mono has stretch in it, but should you be using a long top-shot of mono for the stretch, or a shorter piece so that the hook gets set quickly? I am going out in a month on an 8 day, and I an just wondering if I should use a longer or shorter top-shot of mono. I use about 2 ft. of 200-250# of fluorocarbon to the lure.
I do 100 yards of 80 LB, on my Mine,
And I have had a problem, so far.
 
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Brad I

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I agree that a boat length leader is good for trolling, but on my fall 10 day trips more and more I end up using the same rig for trolling, dropper loop and to have a cow bait rig available "just in case."

Less than a boat length is better for the alternate uses, so usually use more like 25' as an all around length. Its fine for wahoo as I get a good hookset and if a tuna bites the lure, I just fight it much the same as if it were a bait fish. As the others have noted, I am at a dis-advantage in tangles, so I have to me more careful to watch out for people fishing the slide. But if I was using a dedicated trolling rig, I'd go with the boat length.

YMMV.
 
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hucklongfin

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My trolling setup is old school - penn 114h with straight 80# mono on a 5-1/2' rod. Short wire bite leader to the lure itself. PERFECT setup for wahoo trolling. You don't need to worry about setting the hook - the boat will do that for you just fine as long as the hook is SHARP. Lots of stretch with mono to keep the hook planted, short rod for plenty of leverage, cheap so I don't get too worked up if it gets abused, and I don't worry about losing expensive spectra for whatever reason. I save the fancy stuff for bait fishing...
and when was the last time you went into low on a Wahoo anyway?
 

greatbasin

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I don't know, but it seems like enough mono to go from the lure to the spool to keep the the connection from being beat up dragging in the water.
No matter the length what is the connection of choice? Sorry I'm not much of a troller...
 

FishRock

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Loop to loop, leader into hollow or FG knot all work fine.
 

gb58

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My trolling setup is old school - penn 114h with straight 80# mono on a 5-1/2' rod. Short wire bite leader to the lure itself. PERFECT setup for wahoo trolling. You don't need to worry about setting the hook - the boat will do that for you just fine as long as the hook is SHARP. Lots of stretch with mono to keep the hook planted, short rod for plenty of leverage, cheap so I don't get too worked up if it gets abused, and I don't worry about losing expensive spectra for whatever reason. I save the fancy stuff for bait fishing...
if the wahoo gets the hook in it's mouth on the troll it won't matter if the hook is sharp.
it's going for a ride until the boat slows down
 

themacs

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I just use the boat rods for trolling and they already have proper length and jigs tied on. If I’m on a reel long trip I use my own setup for the kite. I have only seen one tuna over 100 pounds caught on the troll. I rarely troll unless there’s wahoo around. But in answer to your question I think 100-150 feet It’s fine if you want to troll with your own set up.
 
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themacs

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I just use the boat rods for trolling and they already have proper length and jigs tied on. If I’m on a real long trip I use my own setup for the kite. I have only seen one tuna over 100 pounds caught on the troll. I rarely troll unless there’s wahoo around. But in answer to your question I think 100-150 feet It’s fine if you want to troll with your own set up.
 

Halfprice

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The past couple of years I only used about 25' to 40' feet. What ever tops off my Mak 16 and never had a problem. But Ive been thinking about stripping about 100 ft of line off and adding fresh spectra on top. But now I think Ill just take it off and fill with mono


Jerry
 

Cubeye

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if the wahoo gets the hook in it's mouth on the troll it won't matter if the hook is sharp.
it's going for a ride until the boat slows down
Then it will spit the hook if it isn't sharp?
 

richardblufin

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Use the boats trolling gear. One less thing you have to buy/rent/carry. Also they have the latest and greatest lure already tied on. On a 8day Wahoo would be the main target.
 

Yellowtail Dan

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Use the boats trolling gear. One less thing you have to buy/rent/carry. Also they have the latest and greatest lure already tied on. On a 8day Wahoo would be the main target.
That’s how I roll, I might bring one of the new Nomads for the crew To use and keep on my next trip
 
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Many times! see my avatar hahahah I fished the Revillagigedos as shown for many years. Honestly the avatar photo was usually the ending with any larger Tuna, too much time in the water and the sharks found them.