Trailer Bearing Q&A???

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  1. Secutor54

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    Hello all,

    Quick question, I’ve ran into several issues with wheel bearings on my trailer the last couple of months.

    So, I bought the boat that came with he trailer and I immediately replaced both bearings a few weeks after the purchase. I noticed that both wheels were a bit wobbly when I purchased it and didn’t really know how to do it, being that this was my first boat and trailer and I wanted to learn in case I ever needed to fix it myself on the fly.

    Anyhow, the bearings were purchased at Oreilly’s and the original sets were brought to the store for exact measurements. I changed them out and the problem seemed to have been solved. I changed them out and had one of them completely fail on me yesterday and had to fix it at the landing after fishing La Jolla most of the morning. The spindle had a bit of residual stripping from the bearing and I had to use a steel brush to clean it up before installing the new one.

    Anyway, my question is should I have purchased marine grade bearings? Is there such a thing? Or will any type of bearing suffice for marine application.

    Also, as far as trailer maintenance goes, is there something I’m not doing? I usually grease the bearings every two to three trips and will also give them a fresh water rinse when I get back as I rinse the boat and flush the motor out. Since buying the boat, I’ve already replaced three bearings, all of which have been purchased at Oreillys.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. curt lj.

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    Did you replace the races and the seal at the back of the hub? FE trailers has all the right parts and are very helpful with questions
     
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  3. karlow

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    There are no "marine bearings".
    Were the failed bearings rusty?
    That is a very light boat, You should have no issues.
    Do you have bearing buddies on it?
    You may not have installed them correctly.
    You may have the wrong bearings. Are the spindles tapered or straight?
    Most boat trailer spindles are tapered.
    Look on U-tube, I'm sure there a videos on how to do it.
    Make sure the seal and the seal surface are good.
    Fully pack the bearings, spin the hub, crank down the spindle nut and spin the hub to get everything seated and back it off a bit. Install the locking device.
    Install the buddy bearing pump it with a grease gun until the piston starts to move.
    You are done, install the cover and the wheel. There should be no noticeable wobble or play.
     
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  4. SeaHawk IV

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    Post a pic of the spindle's condition. Are you just replacing the bearings alone or did you also replace the bearing race?

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    Did you replace the bearing seal that goes on the back side of the hub?


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    The last item is to check the wheel bearing grease caps. If they pop off on their own during towing, the hub needs replacing or the grease cap needs replacing due to warping.

    If all the above items is an issue, I suspect you need to replace the entire axle or just the spindles and install new hubs.

    I experienced this exact same issue a while back. After replacing both axles, hubs and calipers, it's been problem free for the past three plus years with the same bearings and race. I've changed my maintenance habit. I always grease the hubs before and after each trip. If the boat sits more than a month, I top off the hubs with more grease to eliminate air to prevent condensation build up. My tires heats up under the sun everyday and I've noticed grease leaking all the time during the hot months.

    If you plan to replace the spindle(s), I recommend to replace the bearing system with the Vault Lubricating System. It's maintenance free compared to what you have now.
     
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    Very informative video.

     
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    The grease bearing seals for boat's are "double lip" seals. If you replaced them with regular single lip seals then that maybe the cause of the water intrusion.
     
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    "I usually grease the bearings every two to three trips and will also give them a fresh water rinse when I get back"

    You are rinsing the bearings?
    1. why
    2. how
     
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    You should take trailer to your local trailer shop and have them check it out and advise you on maintain your trailer. Why screw up a trip with a trailer problem. Sorry, spend the money!! Good Luck !
     
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    Over greasing will blow that rear seal and allow water intrusion. How much grease sling are you experiencing on inside of wheel/trailer/boat?
     
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    Thank you all for the responses.


    Long story short, I’ve had to replace all parts of the bearings. The seal that is on the back part of the bearing, the bearing seats and even the cotter pin each time. Each time I’ve made sure to pack the hell out of them with marine grade grease. Maybe, over greasing???

    As far as greasing them, I’ll take the bearing buddy hub off by tapping it with a mallet and apply grease to it every two to three trips.

    The nuts and back part of the hub were a bit rusty, but were cleaned up with a steel brush and greased a bit, before installing new bearings.

    I haven’t seen any damage to either of the spindles, but each time I’ve changed the bearings out, I have noticed heat deterioration and stripping to the races and bearing hub.

    Thanks again!
     
  11. Secutor54

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    Initially, the first time I changed them out, I did notice quite a bit of sling on both sides of the boat, but mostly small spattering.
     
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    Typically, spray the axle and wheels with the hose as I am rinsing the boat and flushing the motor after each trip.
     
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    Each time I’ve replaced the parts, it would seem to me that the seal is single lipped. This may be issue to rapid deterioration. Going to have to look into this for sure. Thank you.
     
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    So, one of the times the bearing was completely gone! The only remaining parts were the seal and races and just scraps of the failed bearing.

    I do have bearing buddies installed and the spindles are tapered.
     
  15. HookEmDanO

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    ya grease the buddy bearings with them on the hub

    ya may want to find a vid on youtube
     
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    also the bearing buddies are not intended to grease your bearings...they are there to apply pressure inside the hub to keep water OUT
     
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  17. Secutor54

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    No. I take dust cap off, tap bearing buddy off the hub and apply only enough grease to cover the exterior of the bearing to keep water out as much as possible.
     
  18. HookEmDanO

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    I think ya may have missed post #15...read post #15

    goto the bearing buddy website...you are doing it wrong
     
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    If this is the boat/trailer that you are talking about, it might be time to replace the complete axle/hub assembly.
     
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    How are you packing the bearings? Are you doing it by hand or using a grease packer? Also, if you dont leave a slight amount of play when you "tighten" the castle nut, your bearings will fail. Something is off.
     

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