tony pena knot

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  1. strictly1

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    any link to a good set of instructions to tie this knot.
     
  2. hendo7

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    u tube it
     
  3. alan760

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    Also look at the Bob Sands knot.
     
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    I use to use bob sands, good knot. Now use modified Albright. Caught 70lb bft on 65lb braid to 40lb flouro. This is much easier to tie on the boat
     
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    I second the modified albright knot. EASY to tie and seems to hold up. I've only been able to test on 20-40# fish, but haven't had a knot failure yet on neither the modified albright nor the Seaguar knot from mono-flouro.
     
  6. Anglewood

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    I also like the modified albright. Had it tested when a sealion ran away with a 30lb (my guess) yellowtail at Cedros. After an epic battle trying to get my fish back, I ended up having to break it off by grabbing the spool with my left hand and just pulling. My straight 40lb mono leader broke and I fished the rest of the day on what was left. The guy who taught it to me said it was as close as you could get to a 100% connection, and now I believe him.

    -Connor
     
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    Double the line on the Tony pena or the bob sands.( I knew it as a surffishing knot)
    A double knot on the braid,
    Prevents slipping and the squeeze on the main line is minimized. Cheers
     
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    Yeah I want a easy to tie knot for tying mono or floro to my spectra on the reel
     
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    me too! modified albright or alberto knot...
     
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    Modified albright-forget the others
     
  11. yessokk

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    The Tony Pena and the Bob Sands knot are virtually the same knot. The only difference is how
    the stop knot is tied. The TP uses a single overhand knot and the BS uses a 3 turn uni. Have found the
    single over hand knot to have a tendency to slip. So it is best to use either a 2 turn overhand knot or
    the 3 turn uni for the stop knot. They both are solid choices. The key to both knots is to use the max.
    number of wraps up and down and still be able to cinch the knot down. As line wts. go up the max number
    of wraps up and down will decrease. Typical number of wraps for 30 spectra to 25 fluoro is 20 up and
    20-30 down. For 65 spectra to 40 fluoro is 16 up and 18-20 down. You will need a smooth round tool
    like a pc. PVC to wrap the spectra around to cinch either knot down. A lot of pulling force is required to Cinch these knots down and you will not be able to do it properly without the tool.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=ton...l%2Fluke-clausen-on-the-shaky-head%2F;304;448

    Video for the Bob Sands Knot
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PQKOlrLR68&noredirect=1

    Modified Albright is also a great knot.
    Here is a video comparing the Mod. Alb. to the Uni to uni knot which in MHO is a "Dud"
    The Albright is a good 30% stronger then the Uni to Uni.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R_2xautA1U



    Walt
     
  12. NaplesJohn

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    Yup, tried this one on my 8 day on the intrepid, and am now using it in place of double uni in home inshore waters....super easy...pretty stealthy. Any comments from folks using heavier braid 80-100 and 60LB topshots?
     
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    Have tested a lot of knots in string under 40lbs as that's as high as I can go with the testing. But from
    the research I have done on the heavier line indicates that hollow spectra using the type of connection
    where the fluoro or mono is inserted inside the spectra for a "Chinese Finger Trap" type of connection is a solid reliable choice for connecting the spectra to Mono/Fluoro. Would suggest researching it.
     
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    You can use the Bob Sands knot up to 100 lb. It gets too hard to cinch down for 130 lb. Same goes for the worm knot.
     
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    I use a Bob Sands because it seems to go through my guides a lot better than the single or double overhand knot of a Tony Pena. I only tie mine with 12 twists up and then 12 twists down. I've never had one fail on me.
     
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    On a recent Indie trip, I tried the Tony Pena (this is what the crew uses), John Collins and Mod Albright.

    Tony Pena - good knot but tough to tie without a tackle station. Its a John Collins with a uni in the mono around the tag end of the spectra.

    John Collins - I have been practicing this knot and it seems easy. I had a complete knot failure on one. Came completely unraveled on a med sized bluefin (30 lb?) on 30 lb test to 50 lb spectra. Yes, I had pulled on it and set the knot with a wood dowel. Wont be using it again.

    Modified Albright - I have been tying it for 10 years and will keep as my connection. Never had one fail.
     
  18. Blender02

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    John Collins or RP knot is just an improved bristol knot. It is super easy to tie and is super strong. I started using this a few years ago and haven't gone back to anything else. You don't have to tie a bimini; just single strand of mono (or flouro) to single strand of spectra... 5 up, 5 down, and you are done.
     
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    modified albright...proven time and time again
     
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