Tony Pena Knot Realization

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  1. Creed

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    I was rooting around for new spectra to mono connections and just realized that I have been using the Pena knot for nearly twenty years, only I learned it as the "10x10" knot, and use it to connect 10lb braid to 20lb floro, for stripers in the the Chesapeake Bay. The knot has never failed and has a really low profile, at least on the lighter lines. I plan on trying it on heavier connections on my upcoming trip.
     
  2. SouthBayKiller

    SouthBayKiller I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I like the Pena, but the "Bob Sands" aka same as a Pena, but with a uni knot instead of the overhand is slightly bulkier but much more secure.
     
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    I use the Tony Pena exclusively for 100# and 130# and have caught numerous cows and many tuna in the 150# to 190# range with no failures……..my buddy caught a 302# last year with it…..I no longer use the insertion connections……only advice is be sure the locking knot in the mono or FC is uber tight. Good luck.
     
  4. backlashjack

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    So if I'm understanding this correctly, the difference is, the "Pena" has an overhand knot for the stopper knot & the "Sands" has a 3 wrap uni for the stopper? If that's the case I've been tying a "Sands' and calling it a "Pena" for years now. I do however drop down to a 2 turn uni on line that is 60# and higher.

    Question; If I use a figure 8 for the stopper can I name it the "Jackson"???
     
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    No. The figure 8 stopper is already called the "Slim Beauty".
     
  6. SouthBayKiller

    SouthBayKiller I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    That is my understanding, but I could be totally wrong. Also I only use two turn uni. It cinches down nicer than the overhand for me.
     
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    Any of you guys ever burn a little ball on the end of the T.P./B.S. jam knot tag?

    Did some garage tinkering on 80# mono & the burnt knob halted a 3 turn uni that slipped under considerable pressure.
    Did same with (figure 8) OH jam but no slippage evident.
    Did not focus on making either jam "uber"-uber tight tho.
     
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    I avoid getting heat anywhere close to spectra as heat is a mortal enemy of spectra…..I use a pair of pliers to pull the tag end of the locking knot to get it "uber" tight.
     
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    If you use a single overhand knot for the Tony Pena knot sooner or later it will slip and the
    connection will fail. A 2 or 3 turn uni is MUCH better. Have never had that uni stop knot
    fail.
     
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    Double overhand with a twice through, same direction with the spectra tag. Two turn uni. Or a Slim Beauty figure 8.....I think you end up with the same stop knot. What I like about any three is the tag of mono stays parallel with the main line. Nothing poking out sideways and it's a double non slip knot. Pull uber and cut close.
     
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    fishdoggary I do what I want Bitch!

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    I tie it with a double overhand knot and pull it tight with pliers and nub the end with a torch lighter. Never had a problem with it getting close to the spectra or burning it. You just need to be careful... How tight is "uber" tight Mr. Buzz?
     
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    I seem to have the best results with a 3 turn uni as the stop knot. I also cinch everything down with dowels on the main line and leader before trimming the tag end.

    -Connor
     
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    The "slim beauty" has the spectra doubled with 3 tag ends of spectra

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=slim+beauty+knot&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAYQjB1qFQoTCLHq8Iiwi8YCFQGigAodChsAYg&url=http://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/slim-beauty-knot/&ei=J3R7VfG6EIHEggSKtoCQBg&psig=AFQjCNFiqN_L8XfSGDibokcJm2vmyqhWPA&ust=1434240420570504

    It's official, I think we're just gonna have to call it a "Jackson" now. LOL
     
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    I'd be more than happy to make my mark on your tag Mr Buzz

    Franchise fee of one Tecate
     
  17. SemperFishing

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    I'm very curious about this, I really like the Tony Pena and got two yellows over 40lb and a 55 seabass on it. Great knot. Not willing yet to tackle a cow on it, but I am paying attention to know if it works.
     
  18. eric harner

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    Been using the TP knot for years uni 2 turn never has failed. Been using the RP knot this season has not failed yet . 48 lb BFT & some yellows . Not trying to hijack this post but has anyone used it on 80lb & up ?
     

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