To Much Stuff! How do you cut it down?

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locvetter

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    It was 9 months ago that I started preparing in earnest for my Jan 20, 2019 trip. I suspect I am not the first to over accumulate.

    Options clearly include:
    • Taking only what you think you might use - or will find easier to carry aboard, or,
    • I could take it all - I am on a trip where I will have my own room for storage, or
    • Somewhere in between.

    Example: I have four extra deep 3700 boxes just with hooks, six with cast-able jigs, two with trolling lures, plus a roll, it goes on and on.

    I recall early on in this process someone commented, "How do you keep track of it all?" I now see his point.

    My current plan is to start culling.

    Suggestions? (Perhaps other than your mailing addresses.)
     
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    Bill W

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    Start with the recommended tackle list that the boat puts out. Find out what the boat has on hand for sale. The rest you most likely you will not need and you can buy on the boat.
     
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    locvetter

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    Start with the recommended tackle list that the boat puts out. Find out what the boat has on hand for sale. The rest you most likely you will not need and you can buy on the boat.
    Is that what you do, Bill???
     
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    hucklongfin

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    You certainly don’t need all the hooks or lead on their lists. I take more jigs, lures and bombs!
    2 half 3700’s for hooks, one with 9 compartments for loose cheap hooks and the other for pocket and pro packs of designer hooks
    1 3700 with poppers/stick baits
    1 3700 for Wahoo bombs, Raiders, etc
    1 3700 with yoyo & surface iron
    1 3700 with flat falls, knife jigs, Megabaits, krocs, etc.
    1 deep 3700 with trolling stuff and more bombs
    1 3700 with rigging supplies
    1 deep 3700 with extra poppers and stickbaits
     
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    5-20

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    I’ve sort of come up with a solution that kind of works... by default.

    Ever since I started using an Okuma Nomad rolling tackle bag, well, the dividers are made out of cloth so if I bring too much stuff, especially heavy jigs, the boxes become really hard to pull out, like really, really difficult. And they’re just about even harder to put back in once the top 2 boxes start sagging down.

    That has forced me to pack carefully. Damn those heavy jigs and torpedo weights!!!!! :) :) :)
     
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    OIF VET

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    Maybe I am an idiot but I can pack everything for a 15 day trip in a big gym bag. One pair of xtra tuffs one pair flip flops 20 pairs cheap socks.20 of my best constructions shirts to throw away. I always buy a couple shirts at landing and buy a couple boat shirts maybe a sweatshirt and I am good on that. Tackle- bring the minimum you need. Yes it’s always nice to have your own rods reels and some tackle. It’s a pain in the ass to go overboard. For me I bring a 50w with rod 2 30 with rod. 2 wahoo rods. But I go overboard with jig sticks. I always normally bring 2 100js and a Harnell 724. Bring floro hooks and maybe 6 Salas jig and 6 bombs and you are set bro
     
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    Bill W

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    Is that what you do, Bill???

    I have a small wood box I work out of. It has 2 rod holders. I have a small jig box.

    These are my working boxes on the fishing deck.

    The rest is in the stateroom or on top deck.
     
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    ZZZZZ

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    All my designer hook packs are stored in heavy zip lock bags. Sometimes double zip lock bags. With the little bags that suck up moisture

    Hooks, fluoro, mono, spectra, rigging tools, glue & other rigging stuff. All go into a small duffel bag and stored in a dry place. Where the salt water hose water will never touch or no or very little direct sunlight. Or ocean spray. Upper deck or stateroom for protection and out of the way storage.

    I don't like my expensive designer hooks out on the deck all day and night. Lots of moisture at night also. A hook with corrosion in a pack that has never been fished is a sad hook. Basically imo if anyone's hooks are gettingg corroded while being stored. Change your storring system

    With the new dry type duffel bags. I would use one of those instead of a regular duffel bag. Upper deck has moisture. I use a tiny dry bag like a purse down here. Keep phone dry important

    My deck box is small. I don't care where my d4ck box goes as long as its dry. Most of my bulky terminal tackle is in my duffel bag

    A used hook. Never goes back into a pack of hooks. Cleaned and stored with other used hooks.
     
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    DennisV

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    Just a NuCanoe Frontier now.
    I haven't done any LR but I have traveled to many places by air where weight is always an issue.

    One thought.
    I'd rather have X matching pairs of jigs / lures, than 2X different ones. When one gets hot and then you lose it, you always have a spare. Confidence is key.
     
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    locvetter

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    You certainly don’t need all the hooks or lead on their lists. I take more jigs, lures and bombs!
    2 half 3700’s for hooks, one with 9 compartments for loose cheap hooks and the other for pocket and pro packs of designer hooks
    1 3700 with poppers/stick baits
    1 3700 for Wahoo bombs, Raiders, etc
    1 3700 with yoyo & surface iron
    1 3700 with flat falls, knife jigs, Megabaits, krocs, etc.
    1 deep 3700 with trolling stuff and more bombs
    1 3700 with rigging supplies
    1 deep 3700 with extra poppers and stickbaits
    Did you get into my home and go through my stuff!!!!!!!!!!!! You seem to know exactly what I've got.

    I could probably get it down to 7 3700's, plus a hidden trolling roll.
     
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    Fishybuzz

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    Just for fun try to keep a log of all the tackle you use on the trip...hooks, jigs, trolling lures, leader material, rods, reels rigging tools etc etc you will be surprised at how little you actually use......but I work out of a small tackle bag on the main deck and like ZZZZZ I always have it in a dry location off the deck....my large box is on the upper deck were I do most of my rigging.
     
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    The Right Kind

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    Have you ever fished with Don Burnside before? If not your in for a surprise.
    He fills two dock carts with his shit, FULL. Whatever you need he has it.
    He's on your trip right? He usually goes on both of the JB trips.
     
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    locvetter

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    Have you ever fished with Don Burnside before? If not your in for a surprise.
    He fills two dock carts with his shit, FULL. Whatever you need he has it.
    He's on your trip right? He usually goes on both of the JB trips.
    I think he is the charter master. Good to hear he is not a minimalist, and might have stuff to share in a pinch.

    Thanks
     
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    hydro

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    If you want to go with less stuff I would start by leaving all your trolling gear at home and just use the boats trolling gear. I see a lot of guys that bring 12 different trolling lures and a special trolling rod. The trolling lures are big (and expensive) and take up a lot of space. I have to fly to San Diego so I don't bring any trolling gear - just use boat gear.

    I bring a small tackle bag with 3 small tackle trays. I try to book trips with guys like Fishybuzz, Mike Stiny and Tim Turis. They bring every possible thing you can imagine (they know what to bring) and are really generous about helping out those who are new to the LR game.

    I brought a good friend of mine on a 16-day for his first LR trip. The only gear I had him bring was three spools of 100# and 130# flouro, about $100 in hooks, and a handful of wahoo jigs and wahoo bait rigs. He borrowed all his rods and reels from the boat for free. He got really nervous when we boarded the boat and he saw how much stuff people brought on board. I told him to relax and that every single person on the boat, except for him, brought way too much stuff. A nearby deckhand laughed and agreed with me. My friend had a great trip, caught a bunch of big tuna, caught wahoo, and had an awesome time.
     
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    Steve K

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    Loc, love you, man. But. I think it all started in the workshop with the construction of your tackle condo. I will take a couple of pics of what I’m taking on my 14 day. I’m the definition of a minimalist. ;)
     
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    FishRock

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    Loc,

    Just decide how much weight/volume/# of pieces you want to haul or deal with. Then start tossing what does not fit. You will eventually make the cuts. Just like a sports team.

    I managed to go on 4, 14 day trips with just 1 plastic tackle box for all my tackle. Box is a little larger than a 3700 box but not much. I don't even store it on deck. I did borrow a couple of small weights and some ringed hooks the first year but pretty much have it all covered now. While I have not always had the best tackle for the conditions I have consistently caught my share of fish. Though I am not a high liner by any stretch.

    I finally broke down last year and bought some of my own equipment so I now have to haul a rod tube and reel case in addition to my duffle that holds all my cloths and small tackle box. It helps that I only use knots for all my attachments.

    Good luck!
     
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    Bill W

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    On the long trips they are almost like albacore trips. (except for wahoo) All you need for a successful trip are an assortment of hooks. Then the wahoo... a couple of trolling lures and a 1/2 dozen bombs and a few casting jigs. The fishing window of opportunity on these trips are very limited, unlike mid range trips that the fishing is non-stop. You can only fish one rig at a time. The other variable is sharks and bait catching on the long trips.
     
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    wahoodad

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    Disembarking from my recent Excel 16 day trip, I waited for the second round of carts. Why hurry? It's going to take a bit of time for fish processing.
    So, crew assists me in loading my cart up, and they laugh when they see how much room there is left in my cart.
    Most people bring WAY too much crap.
    I have it fairly well refined, and never think "I wish I had brought this, or that"

    BTW, most those boat lists of tackle are way overboard too. You buy all the stuff listed on those, you are going to spend way too much money. JMO
     
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    FishRock

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    BTW, most those boat lists of tackle are way overboard too. You buy all the stuff listed on those, you are going to spend way too much money. JMO

    But you will never have to buy another piece of terminal gear the rest of your life!:)
     
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    locvetter

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    You certainly don’t need all the hooks or lead on their lists. I take more jigs, lures and bombs!
    2 half 3700’s for hooks, one with 9 compartments for loose cheap hooks and the other for pocket and pro packs of designer hooks
    1 3700 with poppers/stick baits
    1 3700 for Wahoo bombs, Raiders, etc
    1 3700 with yoyo & surface iron
    1 3700 with flat falls, knife jigs, Megabaits, krocs, etc.
    1 deep 3700 with trolling stuff and more bombs
    1 3700 with rigging supplies
    1 deep 3700 with extra poppers and stickbaits
    Mark,
    I noticed you have two 3700's with poppers and stickballs. Have you ever got a big tuna to take one???? I want to do that.
     
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    potuna

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    Every trip is different and you never know exactly how it will go. Fairly safe assumptions you will fish sardines so hooks and floro leaders. You can fish the chunk so bigger hooks. You will fish wahoo so bombs, jigs and trolling lures, we will fish the kite, you can fish a chandelier rig deep so lead, these are all safe bets. Beyond that you don’t know, I hope to make some bigger baits but that might not happen.
    The guys with a lot of experience pair down their tackle to what they know they need. It depends on how you plan on fishing, I go back to rodless Jim’s post on the different rigs for different styles.
    Since this is a long trip with a light load it could be just yft and wahoo or? I’m bringing the kitchen sink, I’ve found I like to have all my tackle in one spot. I bought a big ass box that holds 10 Plano boxes. Another thing I’ve discovered is it doesn’t do you any good at home.
     
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