Discussion in 'Fishing Chit Chat' started by the SLIDER, Jan 7, 2018.
Apologies to the op for all these side discussions.
My vote...5 fish take with 28in min limit.
Good thing I suck at fishing!
Last time I checked this site was not called www.catchandrelease.com. Bigger YT make many more eggs and therefore many more babies. Why would you want to kill anything over 28” then? They have bred once so lights out?
The truth is that there are too many of all of us Human Beings and the ecosystem can’t handle our shit at this level, literally. Humans are always trying to “fix” Mother Earth and usually tweak here only then to find the err of our ways later somewhere else. Let’s protect sea lions / what happened to all the bait fish? Baby Sea lions now starving. And all the regulations on private boaters seems like a lot of rules and enforcement for the little share of the marine life resource pie that we do take. ENOUGH! How about some sensible rules for USING commercial bycatch? We need a bigger lobby.
How about utilizing things we kill wholly, as best we can or setting it free unharmed?
Do you all want more laws and rules? How many of you read the 2017 CA DFG rules cover to cover last year? Now how many of us really understood it all? I think (I could be wrong) most of us look up our target species and get familiar with that set of rules and try our best to stick to them.
I like the MX quotas and the way the bag limit is set up. It makes sense and it’s easier to follow. 2 dodos and 5yt, I’m done. If you don’t want a 12” YT then release it unharmed to play again. Now you can catch a much bigger YT in its place! Unlimited YFT in US waters hmmm?
Last, I leave you with this: how about
No Yellowtail next year
(5) YT all over 28” the following year?
Or (5) YT any size with just (1) (tiny or not) Sea Lion?
Seems fair since we are all just fixing stuff here.
You're on the right track. Far better to kill your limit of rats then to stick a gaff into a big gravid homeguard. Imagine how wide open it would be if slot limits were implemented. Same should have been done for bass a long time ago. Pisses me off seeing a 10lb calico get kept.
As long as they don’t have to claim their gender!,
Anyone who targets a specific species knows that catching the largest one possible creates the greatest thrill and memories ..
With yellows catching the same fish more than once is not likely (depending on your personal homeguard theory)but slot limits would allow the largest models to be caught again and create memories for others ...
With calicos over 7 lbs these are the ones that give people that love bass fishing feelings and memories for life...and many times are caught multiple times by the same guys...
Why take those opportunities out of the water that we are all looking for???
damn I missed the annual yt debate ...seems it use to be in mid Jan not the first week
Now what the hell was "smug,conceited or asinine" with any of my comments ?
As if the MPAs aren't enough some of you want even more CA style regulations? Pelagics aren't just our fish for starters and yes, since we don't require a license to fish piers and jetties there are people catching and keeping about anything they catch off of them.
We are doing this to ourselves. Regulations will continue to increase because the fish populations off our coast cannot survive the relentless fishing pressure. It is a shame Cali DFW is not interested in enriching the fish population for the sake of the sportsman. If it was, we would have slot limits.
It was when you said people who fish once or twice a year don’t usually catch yellows. I agree with you completely. Nothing ‘smug’ about that to me. Just truth.
This whole conversation is pointless...as none of you jokers will ever show up at a DFG Commission meeting and speak up or at a DFW Marine Resources Meeting where you could get the ball rolling on any new regs or suggestions on regs.
As Willdoggy said...
"SEEMS FAIR SINCE WE ARE ALL JUST FIXING STUFF HERE."
Jim /Saba Slayer
When is the next round of meetings? How far in advance are they scheduled and are they at times when people who work normal shifts can attend?
I'd be interested in going if I can make it.
I think the 5 fish per day limit is spot on. 10 rats in a gunny sack cooking for a couple hours while good for the boat owners isn't good for the fish on any level
There ya go Alby...
Aren't "rats" pretty much under the 24"? max limit for that class is 5. Maybe the DFG should "storm the boats" for a day or two
Mexico's one size fits all approach is easy from a regulation perspective but makes no sense for many types of fish. It's more that they just don't bother to check in the first place. How many times have you been stopped by Mexico's fish and game? They care more that you have the documentation so they know you paid to fish there. I know guys who regularly go there and take HUNDREDS of pounds of rock fish and that's from paid charters. Laws are useless when it's only on paper.
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