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Reach out to Jason. He's been more than helpful on my builds.
 
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There’s a guide spacing calculator on acid rods website in an excel spreadsheet that helps get spacing started. I use alps HXN for heavy rods and start with a 20, 16, 12, and finish with 10’s. I just did 6 thrasher crowbars that way and they performed very well on a big bluefin trip just earlier this month. Got an htr on the wrapper as we speak.

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There’s a guide spacing calculator on acid rods website in an excel spreadsheet that helps get spacing started. I use alps HXN for heavy rods and start with a 20, 16, 12, and finish with 10’s. I just did 6 thrasher crowbars that way and they performed very well on a big bluefin trip just earlier this month. Got an htr on the wrapper as we speak.

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I needed one of those down here in Mexico this week. The seeker I was using was a little soft and almost ruined my back!
 
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I needed one of those down here in Mexico this week. The seeker I was using was a little soft and almost ruined my back!
Those crowbar heavies did work on the blue fin for sure. Made short work of my 135# gutted and @jasper hickman s 200#. We had another buddy who landed one over 100# on a lamicrap and it kicked his ass for close to 2 hrs.
 
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    I like the titanium guys by American Tackle…. They have become a standard on a lot of the bigger rods.. catching fish over 300lbs…
     
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    John, are you referring to the new AmTack Virtus HD high frame guides? I have a set on hand for an unbuilt Thrasher CrowBar heavy blank. Stripper guide not available in size 25, logic being the frames are tall enough to clear larger reels?
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    A-K

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    Those crowbar heavies did work on the blue fin for sure. Made short work of my 135# gutted and @jasper hickman s 200#. We had another buddy who landed one over 100# on a lamicrap and it kicked his ass for close to 2 hrs.
    I’m planning on a long range out of San Diego. Just curious on the blank, length, and reel you guys were using for the jumbo BFT.
     
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    I was fortunate to get one of the first Crowbar blanks ever rolled from Jason. Both blanks are 7-6" in length. 12-20 size reel will work all the way to a 20-30 for the heavy blank. (We used Makaira's, Andros & Penn Torque's/Fathom 2 speeds) My Thrasher railrod is acid wrapped and works great. Killed BFT this season from 40 lbs to triple digits. Both underrated, you can even build the heavy as a kite rod...
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    punted coho

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    I’m planning on a long range out of San Diego. Just curious on the blank, length, and reel you guys were using for the jumbo BFT.
    Crowbar 7’6” heavy for the big fish stuff. 2 of us ran avet ex50, 2 of us ran penn visx 30. All did well. Crowbar light we ran fathom 40’s and a penn visx16.
     
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    Forgot to add awesome job to you and your buddies.

    I’m looking hard at that blank.

    Thanks.
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    G-Spot

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    I like the titanium guys by American Tackle…. They have become a standard on a lot of the bigger rods.. catching fish over 300lbs…
    I am talking about the Titanium Turbo guides. Seeker uses them on their Super Seekers and a lot of rod builders use them on high quality builds… I’ve built 30 rods probably with them…. From small Super Seeker 270 up to Super Seeker 3x5..
     
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    G-Spot

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    I did quite a bit of research 20 years ago on the spiral (Roberts Wrap). You can make the transition much faster than you are doing it. The whole concept is to get the line pulling down as soon as you can to eliminate twist. The longer transition the more twist your adding where you really want the strength. I know the slow twist looks more balanced, and makes a cool photo for BD, but it’s not what the wrap was developed for..

    Stripper/bumper/bottom and viola! You’ll be on bottom at your second guide and it works great on large rods…
     
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    G-Spot

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    This blank happens to be "in between" the light and heavy, initial run of blanks Jason had rolled at the Patriot factory before Brad and Jake started volume producing what's now on the website. Butt load of power in the latter 1/3rd of blank. (I received two of the first six or so original prototypes) I didn't experience twist whatsoever using 16 size reel with this configuration. Thanks for the input, might apply it since I have a heavy Crowbar railrod to wrap...
    Whatever you like… latter 1/3 my ass… load it up with a big ass fish and watch that fucker bend all the way to the foregrip..

    The best wrappers in the world agree the transition should occur in 2 or three guides… Some use a bumper, others don’t like the look, but stretching it out to 5 guides is definitely not how it was developed.

    As for twist you may or may not have felt with a 16 size reel…. Not relevant unless you had that fucker loaded up with a big ass fish testing the limits of the rod. That’s what it’s all about and that’s when the twist happens.

    I’ve felt the twist of conventional rods for sure when fighting big fish….. Feels like you’re going to twist the fore grip off! 😂

    Just research a bit… if you want the best rods available then apply the science and physics of the design.
     
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    ☆THRASHER☆

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    can anyone recommend some guides and guide size for a building this rod. Rod will be used as a halibut rod and stand up trolling.
    I prefer Alps, TIXNZG, you should be able to order from utmost. 20, 16, 12 and three size 10 plus size 10 tip top. Here is the spacing I use from the tip top.

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    ☆THRASHER☆

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    As far as spiral wrap goes.
    To each their own. I do quite a bit of it but definitely not on everything. Acid rod is an excellent source for information and the guide spacing calculator works fairly well. http://acidrod.com/ I don't do the bumper style at all, my transition takes four guides from 0 to 180°. Some people use what is known as a neutral spiral wrap which eliminates the need for left or right handed rods. I think they look stupid, especially the bumper guide when there is a different way to achieve the exact same effect.

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    Being in the Pacific Northwest, we have Batson (Alps) and Utmost enterprises is their local distributor, top quality and easy to get. The new TIHXNZG titanium guides are perfect for the railrods. I generally will stick with Alps components on anything conventional, Fuji is another great option especially on the heavy spinning rods.

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    www.thrasherrods.com
     
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    Jasper H

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    I can attest to the Thrasher CrowBar Heavy being a kick ass rod! If you end up building your own like @punted coho the only recommendation I have is to build that forgrip a big as possible if you ever plan on using it as a rail rod.

    A CrowBar heavy and Crowbar light makes a great combo for anyone looking at one of the long range tuna trips.
     
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    A-K

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    I can attest to the Thrasher CrowBar Heavy being a kick ass rod! If you end up building your own like @punted coho the only recommendation I have is to build that forgrip a big as possible if you ever plan on using it as a rail rod.

    A CrowBar heavy and Crowbar light makes a great combo for anyone looking at one of the long range tuna trips.

    Awesome!

    Was that caught on bait or iron?
     
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    iron bite, approx 400’ deep. It took me for a ride for sure!
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