Thoughts on this Season and this Fall

SemperFishing

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Apr 26, 2007
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Ive been fishing Southern California offshore for nearly 20 years, and read about the El Nino years of the 80s and 90s before I experienced it a few times in 97 on my first ever yellowfin in local waters.
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In those years, I don’t ever recall (to my recollection) Yellowfin of such quality size (30-55lbs) being caught in great numbers until this season. Certainly they have been caught before, but the ones I read about previous to this year were 1s and 2s throughout the season, not whole schools of them. <o:p></o:p>
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That said, my question (especially for you veteran Long Rangers) is this: with the water this warm locally and so many bigger yellowfin and exotics in the 1 day range of San Diego, what does this do to the fishing at areas way south such as the Ridge, Mag Bay and Alijos? Does the warm water cause an increase in the volume and size of the tuna, and numbers of wahoo/dorado? These fish have always been caught before during normal water years in the past, but I am wondering what effect this warm water will have in the same zones this year. It already seems to have pushed a lot of exotic fish far north into the So Cal neighborhood. <o:p></o:p>
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I pose this question mostly for us BDers who have trips this Sept-Nov. Any thoughts and musings are welcome....<o:p></o:p>
 

screamingreel

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Hello Dave,

To keep it simple: it appears the LR fleet is having a very good season so far and it is a bonus to see the quality increase. If the conditions improve farther south, so will the fishing. Maybe a large number of cows will move up the beach like in 2005. You just never know...

Looking forward to getting out on the water. Only 5 more weeks!

- Jeff Burroughs
 

DannyNoonan

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Radiation leaks from the Japanese earthquake are finally influencing tuna growth patterns. Pretty soon, 750# YFT will be commonplace off the southern California coast. Of course, you'll need all new tackle to deal with these monsters...

(Pro Staff for Avet, Penn, Accurate, Okuma, Tiburon and Zebco)
 

Sactotuna

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Phone a friend! Specifically call Tim on Lets Talk Hookup on Sat 8/25, you know, someone who's actually on the water fishing 180 (?) days a year. Or maybe call in on 9/1 and ask Frank. He's been fishing since what, the Truman administration?
Either of these guys should be able to provide actual experience based "thoughts and musings".
Now if you just want a bunch of half-assed speculation . . . .
 

Bill W

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Great fishing up above due to hot water, will hurt fishing down below. On a plus side, the tuna that will stick around in the hot water and bite will be some of the toughest fish you will ever pull on.
 

Steve K

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Great fishing up above due to hot water, will hurt fishing down below. On a plus side, the tuna that will stick around in the hot water and bite will be some of the toughest fish you will ever pull on.
Warm water year like '06, first Cow on a ten day trip to the Lower Banks was taken on the Vagabond on a trip that departed Saturday after Thanksgiving.

Wild Bill, can almost guarantee the food on all trips on the Rooster will be excellent! ;)
 

SemperFishing

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Apr 26, 2007
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Im right with you Jeff. My 8 day trip is on the Excel leaving Sept 17. Im FINALLY getting the chance to fish that boat. Which one r u on?

Hello Dave,

To keep it simple: it appears the LR fleet is having a very good season so far and it is a bonus to see the quality increase. If the conditions improve farther south, so will the fishing. Maybe a large number of cows will move up the beach like in 2005. You just never know...

Looking forward to getting out on the water. Only 5 more weeks!

- Jeff Burroughs
 

SemperFishing

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Apr 26, 2007
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Bring it on. I'll take 700+ yellowfin in the pacific. Even if they have 3 eyes and breath radioactive fire from thier mouths.

Of course, you'll be there with all the appropriate tackle to sell us since all our cow gear will be too small, right?

Radiation leaks from the Japanese earthquake are finally influencing tuna growth patterns. Pretty soon, 750# YFT will be commonplace off the southern California coast. Of course, you'll need all new tackle to deal with these monsters...

(Pro Staff for Avet, Penn, Accurate, Okuma, Tiburon and Zebco)
 

SemperFishing

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Apr 26, 2007
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Tim would be the one to ask. I wasnt aware he was scedhuled on 8/25. Looks like I'll get in my first call to LTH. Maxma sold me those 7691s before we left on our trip too!

As to half-assed speculation, well, BD does serve both to inform and entertain (almost always to the exclusion of each other)

Phone a friend! Specifically call Tim on Lets Talk Hookup on Sat 8/25, you know, someone who's actually on the water fishing 180 (?) days a year. Or maybe call in on 9/1 and ask Frank. He's been fishing since what, the Truman administration?
Either of these guys should be able to provide actual experience based "thoughts and musings".
Now if you just want a bunch of half-assed speculation . . . .
 

SemperFishing

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Apr 26, 2007
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Exactly my concern. I hope this doesnt really weaken the 8 day in late Sept. And with Guadelupe out of the question, that crosses off one of the best places to hunt tuna during a El Nino year.

Great fishing up above due to hot water, will hurt fishing down below. On a plus side, the tuna that will stick around in the hot water and bite will be some of the toughest fish you will ever pull on.
 

balik

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May 29, 2007
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I remember 2006 was a warm water year, and on our 10-day we probably hooked 400+ marlin. Not exaggerating. Also fair on
wahoo and dorado. No tuna in that hot water ...
 

Steve K

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I remember 2006 was a warm water year, and on our 10-day we probably hooked 400+ marlin. Not exaggerating. Also fair on
wahoo and dorado. No tuna in that hot water ...
On an early October trip that year, we didn't even go to Alijios, with no weather window to trek out there. Fishing on the Ridge, I think our largest Yellowfin was around 25 lbs. Upside was a string of Bingos for a 50 fish day on Wahoo. Everybody on the boat got one that day. Ridge was corroded with necktie size Dorado.