Thoughts on these flies

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  1. bent rod todd

    bent rod todd Ling cod killa

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    Hey guys my buddy has been tying up some flies for norcal rockcod. He asked me to post a few of the prototypes to get opinions on them.
    What other colors would you like to see ?
    Would you buy?
    What would you pay for them?
    What could he tie for socal?
    I can tell you from personal experience they work very good up here and are very durable.
    Basically throwing it out there for opinion so have at it.

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  2. Jose Caballero

    Jose Caballero Member

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    those are really beautiful, amazing! i mostly fish bait, but even then, a bit of bling really helps (i use 4-5" salmon-style hoochies when i pre-tie rigs). my buddy swears by bucktails, and he's paying a few bucks a piece all day long. that mackerel looks amazing, and that second squid could really do things...

    thoughts for your buddy: many people around here fish really deep and against strong currents (like 20-24oz won't stay down), so consider the tangle factor on those long fast drops; pricing will be brutal given the amount of work that must be included... i'm afraid lots of rock fish gear is short-lived; i'd be curious to experiment with some big octopus, red crabs, and little baby vermilion patterns.

    tackle business is tricky but i hope he has fun and gives it a shot.
     
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  3. bent rod todd

    bent rod todd Ling cod killa

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    Thanks for the input, I passed it along anyone else?
     
  4. BiggestT

    BiggestT I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    They're cool looking, but seem like overkill for rock fishing. Tying flies is a tough way to make a living. Your competition is former rice pickers from Vietnam.
     
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    QueenAnnesRevenge Member

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    Agreed on overkill for rockfish, most of the fleet using shrimp flies are using rental rods on party boats so not a huge market. Not sure if theres a big enough market of near shore fly fishermen to warrant a business but your buddy might try some of the kayak clubs, I see alot ot them with fly rods fishing near shore rocks and lings.

    The fly market up here is trout, steelhead, striped bass, green bass and shad. Lots of fluff chuckers swinging Gucci fly rods would love some flies like that.
     
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    slapazz Member

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    I'd be all over some red crab patterns. Really like those squid.
     
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  7. PoolMan

    PoolMan 7 'dines short of a full scoop

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    Has he put a price on them?
     
  8. bent rod todd

    bent rod todd Ling cod killa

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    No he has not. Right now he is just fishing them. He would like to sell them, but have no idea where to price them. What do you think they would be worth? I know there is a ton of effort put into them don't see how it could pay off. I think he would have to find a different group ( not rockcod guys) to even come close to making the effort. However in testing they produce a lot of nice size fish and hold up tremendously, the mackeral has about 4 trips on it and still holding up. We fish a flattop reef dont lose much gear if any.
     
  9. streetnfish

    streetnfish Well-Known "Member"

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    Hey Todd,

    Those flies look great and would work in so cal for many species in certain circumstances. There are flies out there that are very similar to the ones your friend has tied. They run about 6-8 bucks a piece. I tie flies myself and I'd still buy a few from him. I had a lot of fun throwing flies from a panga at Cedros . PM me his info if he wants to take an order. I'd pay him more just to support a local craftsman. Squid, Red Crab, Baitfish, Baby Calico would be great patterns.

    Good Luck,
    Ray
     
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    streetnfish Well-Known "Member"

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    streetnfish Well-Known "Member"

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  12. Cubeye

    Cubeye I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    The research and development will always be high. Once he has developed a production method, his costs will naturally come down. Hopefully enough to make a profit.
     
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