Offshore The San Diego 6/4 - lucky redemption

surfbud

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A few weeks ago I posted about me (not the boat) getting skunked on the Daiwa Pacific - overnight.

https://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/threads/overnight-on-the-dp-5-21.795945/#post-5557987

A lot of you gave me tips and encouragement for the next time. Many thanks for that. Well, "next time" happened to be a day trip on The San Diego this past Saturday, 6/4.

You all know the boat and the crew and the world class operation. Captain Matt behind the wheel. But all that talent and experience can only take you so far as you all know. It was a tough day of fishing that evolved into a big bluefin or bust hero quest. In short, 6 sea monsters hit the deck, all between 150-180lbs, for about 40 anglers. There were also 5 yellowtail caught on one kelp stop in the afternoon, but that was it.

We were about 30-40 miles straight out west of the landing. For a while we were the only boat around, but eventually we were in a sportboat convention out there.

64-65 degree clean blue water (up several degrees from just a couple weeks ago). Cloudy and bumpy with a couple of swells rolling through. Foggy and misty early.

There were probably 15-20 big bluefin hooked. Usually between 150 to 400 feet down. All but the 6 popped off, usually because folks were undergunned, despite the crew and landing being a broken record about bringing and using heavy gear.

As for the 6 that did come aboard, 3 were on jigs and 3 came on live bait sinker rig. The angler who got bit the most (three times) was an off-duty crewmember who was along for the ride, using a 200 or 250gm daiwa SK jig and fishing from the bow. He landed one monster and donated it to the the anglers who didn't get a fish that day.

As for the sinker rigs, the crew were recommending what they were calling the "improved" sinker rig. Basically, instead of using a rubber band, you do a quasi drop shot rig. You've got your typical fly-line setup. But then you take a 3 or 4 foot piece of lighter mono that you have lying around, and tie one end to the eye of your hook (so now you've got two knots coming off the eye, including the connection up to the main line), and you tie your sinker to the other end. Now you've got a sinker dangling 3-4 ft. inline below your bait hook. You then chin hook the bait - coming up from the bottom under the chin and out through the top of the nose.

Now to wrap up this long-winded story. I happen to be one of the lucky bastards that boated one of the big bluefin. About 175lbs. A personal best by 175lbs. Used the improved sinker rig. I brought 4 setups and at the last minute, on the urging of the landing, I picked up a 100lb rental setup (heaviest I own I use for 60/80lb work - a Fathom 40N 2spd). I thought: "what the heck, it's 35 bucks."

So I get this thing, which is a TLD 20 two-speed that sounds like an old VW Bug when cranking, paired with a heavy rainshadow 50-100 rod. 100lb string. I added a 100lb piece of fluoro on there, and rather than use their included sack of stock hooks and sinker, I put on a 4/0 ringed super mutu and a slightly heavier sinker (8oz instead of the 6 they handed out). Anyway, that's what I pulled this beast in with, after a 40 minute fight and lots of help from the expert crew- captain Matt sinking the third gaff in to seal the deal. Thanks again to the BDO community for sharing all the knowledge and wisdom.

Second photo includes choice cuts after the 3-hour yoshida sauce brine and my attempt to develop a good pellicle before smoking. Turned out pretty good. Go get 'em.

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bdubs73

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Man, this was great to read, and congratulations! What a wild time to be fishing, when your first BFT is the kind of trophy people spend 20 years hoping to land. I was just watching a video on this new sinker set up, it makes good sense to me, the tangling of the leader can be a big issue. I am def. going to try it out myself.
 
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CI_SeaWolf

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    Congratulations on a great fish! If only everyone would listen to the deckhands and skipper when they tell them to break out the heavy gear….
     
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    goldfinger81

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    Congrats and thanks for the report! Interesting sinker rig set up. What was the crew's rationale for setting it up that way? Aside from people mooching rubber bands all day long :)
     
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    surfbud

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    Congrats and thanks for the report! Interesting sinker rig set up. What was the crew's rationale for setting it up that way? Aside from people mooching rubber bands all day long :)
    I asked for the rationale and only comment the crew offered was that they were finding that they got "more bites that way." I'm not smart enough to figure it out. I guess one side effect is you lose fewer sinkers, if you care about such things. I just figured it had to be about how it dragged the bait down. Would love to hear the theories
     
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    Big_Tuna_

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    Shesh, nice fish but suspect "improved" sinker rig.

    Correct me if I'm wrong..... but by tying your weight directly to the eye of hook with mono you are asking to have that hook pulled out by your weight... and no amount of tension applied to your mainline can help!!! That's 🤪
     
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    whammy

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    Congrats and thanks for the report! Interesting sinker rig set up. What was the crew's rationale for setting it up that way? Aside from people mooching rubber bands all day long :)
    you can sink the bait down as fast as you can ( like rock fishing) without worrying about the bait helicoptering and tangling in the sinker the traditional way since the sinker is now below the hook
     
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    Wade horsman

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    Shesh, nice fish but suspect "improved" sinker rig.

    Correct me if I'm wrong..... but by tying your weight directly to the eye of hook with mono you are asking to have that hook pulled out by your weight... and no amount of tension applied to your mainline can help!!! That's 🤪
    Video i watched said to tie a light line onto the ring on the hook - assisted getting the bait to the zone sooner and they didn`t getting any extra hook pulls with that system I`m watching way to much utube
     
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    Congrats and thanks for the report! Interesting sinker rig set up. What was the crew's rationale for setting it up that way? Aside from people mooching rubber bands all day long :)
    Attached is a kindergarten sketch of the rig there talking about. My buddy and I were talking about this the other day. I drew him a sketch to explain he plans on trying it out on his up coming 1.5 day.

    911847C5-93EA-4D0A-AFDE-3C90FD9C57BE.jpeg
     
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    A few weeks ago I posted about me (not the boat) getting skunked on the Daiwa Pacific - overnight.

    https://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/threads/overnight-on-the-dp-5-21.795945/#post-5557987

    A lot of you gave me tips and encouragement for the next time. Many thanks for that. Well, "next time" happened to be a day trip on The San Diego this past Saturday, 6/4.

    You all know the boat and the crew and the world class operation. Captain Matt behind the wheel. But all that talent and experience can only take you so far as you all know. It was a tough day of fishing that evolved into a big bluefin or bust hero quest. In short, 6 sea monsters hit the deck, all between 150-180lbs, for about 40 anglers. There were also 5 yellowtail caught on one kelp stop in the afternoon, but that was it.

    We were about 30-40 miles straight out west of the landing. For a while we were the only boat around, but eventually we were in a sportboat convention out there.

    64-65 degree clean blue water (up several degrees from just a couple weeks ago). Cloudy and bumpy with a couple of swells rolling through. Foggy and misty early.

    There were probably 15-20 big bluefin hooked. Usually between 150 to 400 feet down. All but the 6 popped off, usually because folks were undergunned, despite the crew and landing being a broken record about bringing and using heavy gear.

    As for the 6 that did come aboard, 3 were on jigs and 3 came on live bait sinker rig. The angler who got bit the most (three times) was an off-duty crewmember who was along for the ride, using a 200 or 250gm daiwa SK jig and fishing from the bow. He landed one monster and donated it to the the anglers who didn't get a fish that day.

    As for the sinker rigs, the crew were recommending what they were calling the "improved" sinker rig. Basically, instead of using a rubber band, you do a quasi drop shot rig. You've got your typical fly-line setup. But then you take a 3 or 4 foot piece of lighter mono that you have lying around, and tie one end to the eye of your hook (so now you've got two knots coming off the eye, including the connection up to the main line), and you tie your sinker to the other end. Now you've got a sinker dangling 3-4 ft. inline below your bait hook. You then chin hook the bait - coming up from the bottom under the chin and out through the top of the nose.

    Now to wrap up this long-winded story. I happen to be one of the lucky bastards that boated one of the big bluefin. About 175lbs. A personal best by 175lbs. Used the improved sinker rig. I brought 4 setups and at the last minute, on the urging of the landing, I picked up a 100lb rental setup (heaviest I own I use for 60/80lb work - a Fathom 40N 2spd). I thought: "what the heck, it's 35 bucks."

    So I get this thing, which is a TLD 20 two-speed that sounds like an old VW Bug when cranking, paired with a heavy rainshadow 50-100 rod. 100lb string. I added a 100lb piece of fluoro on there, and rather than use their included sack of stock hooks and sinker, I put on a 4/0 ringed super mutu and a slightly heavier sinker (8oz instead of the 6 they handed out). Anyway, that's what I pulled this beast in with, after a 40 minute fight and lots of help from the expert crew- captain Matt sinking the third gaff in to seal the deal. Thanks again to the BDO community for sharing all the knowledge and wisdom.

    Second photo includes choice cuts after the 3-hour yoshida sauce brine and my attempt to develop a good pellicle before smoking. Turned out pretty good. Go get 'em.

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    Nice fish man.
     
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    A few weeks ago I posted about me (not the boat) getting skunked on the Daiwa Pacific - overnight.

    https://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/threads/overnight-on-the-dp-5-21.795945/#post-5557987

    A lot of you gave me tips and encouragement for the next time. Many thanks for that. Well, "next time" happened to be a day trip on The San Diego this past Saturday, 6/4.

    You all know the boat and the crew and the world class operation. Captain Matt behind the wheel. But all that talent and experience can only take you so far as you all know. It was a tough day of fishing that evolved into a big bluefin or bust hero quest. In short, 6 sea monsters hit the deck, all between 150-180lbs, for about 40 anglers. There were also 5 yellowtail caught on one kelp stop in the afternoon, but that was it.

    We were about 30-40 miles straight out west of the landing. For a while we were the only boat around, but eventually we were in a sportboat convention out there.

    64-65 degree clean blue water (up several degrees from just a couple weeks ago). Cloudy and bumpy with a couple of swells rolling through. Foggy and misty early.

    There were probably 15-20 big bluefin hooked. Usually between 150 to 400 feet down. All but the 6 popped off, usually because folks were undergunned, despite the crew and landing being a broken record about bringing and using heavy gear.

    As for the 6 that did come aboard, 3 were on jigs and 3 came on live bait sinker rig. The angler who got bit the most (three times) was an off-duty crewmember who was along for the ride, using a 200 or 250gm daiwa SK jig and fishing from the bow. He landed one monster and donated it to the the anglers who didn't get a fish that day.

    As for the sinker rigs, the crew were recommending what they were calling the "improved" sinker rig. Basically, instead of using a rubber band, you do a quasi drop shot rig. You've got your typical fly-line setup. But then you take a 3 or 4 foot piece of lighter mono that you have lying around, and tie one end to the eye of your hook (so now you've got two knots coming off the eye, including the connection up to the main line), and you tie your sinker to the other end. Now you've got a sinker dangling 3-4 ft. inline below your bait hook. You then chin hook the bait - coming up from the bottom under the chin and out through the top of the nose.

    Now to wrap up this long-winded story. I happen to be one of the lucky bastards that boated one of the big bluefin. About 175lbs. A personal best by 175lbs. Used the improved sinker rig. I brought 4 setups and at the last minute, on the urging of the landing, I picked up a 100lb rental setup (heaviest I own I use for 60/80lb work - a Fathom 40N 2spd). I thought: "what the heck, it's 35 bucks."

    So I get this thing, which is a TLD 20 two-speed that sounds like an old VW Bug when cranking, paired with a heavy rainshadow 50-100 rod. 100lb string. I added a 100lb piece of fluoro on there, and rather than use their included sack of stock hooks and sinker, I put on a 4/0 ringed super mutu and a slightly heavier sinker (8oz instead of the 6 they handed out). Anyway, that's what I pulled this beast in with, after a 40 minute fight and lots of help from the expert crew- captain Matt sinking the third gaff in to seal the deal. Thanks again to the BDO community for sharing all the knowledge and wisdom.

    Second photo includes choice cuts after the 3-hour yoshida sauce brine and my attempt to develop a good pellicle before smoking. Turned out pretty good. Go get 'em.

    View attachment 1390973
    Beast!
     
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    Reel hip

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    Look at that smile!!!!
    Way to go!
    I was out there the same day. Got none.
    Definitley needing to look at the improved sinker theory.
    Looks like it works.
     
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