Hmmm...Interesting. I had a Pro Pack of smaller hooks that had five ringed hooks that weren't welded properly. No big deal if you catch them before you start fishing. Very difficult to maintain quality control at 100% when Flash Welding or Resistance Butt Welding so many small pieces at the speed necessary to make a profit.Owner responded that they never had this happen before. They are sending me replacements.
Would you care to share the reasons you don't like Owner Super Mutu hooks?I remember several years ago on the Intrepid they got a bunch of ringed Owner with bad welds.....Kevin return all of them....the welds were uneven and looked bad......I am also a fan of the 3 turn uni.....great knot been using it for years..
I use Eagle Claw 2004's no problems so far.......never have been a Owner fan especially the Super Mutus for several reasons.
X2 on the knot. Looks like a San Diego with the line around the ring flattened out, or a San Diego with the line looped twice around the ring.I'm looking at Donna's picture, and I just realized that I can't identify the knot. At first I thought it was a San Diego Jam, but it isn't. What is it? Of course in this discussion, the knot isn't the issue, and I am not out to hijack the thread. But my curiosity has been piqued at this point.
I agree with those who say that in this instance, the cause of the failure was most likely a poor braze, along with a ring of insufficient strength. Pretty damned amazing.
Would you care to share the reasons you don't like Owner Super Mutu hooks?
Thank you. Interesting observations.I don't like the cutting point IMO it can enlarge the entry hole in a long fight increasing the possibility of the hook coming out.....it is also what I consider a "modified" circle point which increases the chances of the hook not setting up in the corner of the fishes mouth...if the hook sets deeper in the mouth or gut or gills it greatly increases the possibility of getting chewed off and finally I feel the hook is heavy and thick which causes IMO undue damage to to the bait and any excess weight is a detriment IMO when flylining sardines.
Many many fish have been caught by anglers using Super Mutus and lots of accomplished anglers use them exclusively I don't mean this to begin some kind of debate on hooks cause it is a blondes verses redhead kinda conversation.... just want to answer your inquiry and explain why I choose not to use Super Mutus for cow fishing.
The hooks you like are indestructible. They are also becoming increasingly hard to come by. The 3000 I have on order has been cancelled with no answer on when and if they will be made again.Have not broke a hook yet but I do not fish Owner Hooks, I fish hard enough.
The hooks you like are indestructible. They are also becoming increasingly hard to come by. The 3000 I have on order has been cancelled with no answer on when and if they will be made again.
Meeting with VMC Thursday to see whats up.
Is that VMC Dynamic ringed 5/0 big enough for Sardines?
As far as the ring Steve, personally if it is put on by VMC I would cut it off. Not completely round but a washer. 5/0 for pick bite or smaller sardines, 6/0 normal sardines. At least that is my strategy.
Not many people say I'm sorry anymore. It's really too bad that good manners are disappearing. My next adventure is to check all my rings. Thanks Jamie for the above info.Tony at Owner said, "this is a first" and "weird". He said he was sending me hooks in Monday's mail. The word "sorry" never was mentioned.