Shimano Talica 12ii or 16ii

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Looking to upgrade to a Talica 12ii or 16ii. I want a reel that will meet my needs for tuna in the 60-100# class. Any thoughts or insights? I have pretty small hands and think the 12ii would fit me better, but just wondering if the extra 85 ft of 65lb braid would make that big a difference. Also is the 16ii that much bigger than the 12ii? Thanks!
 
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Looking to upgrade to a Talica 12ii or 16ii. I want a reel that will meet my needs for tuna in the 60-100# class. Any thoughts or insights? I have pretty small hands and think the 12ii would fit me better, but just wondering if the extra 85 ft of 65lb braid would make that big a difference. Also is the 16ii that much bigger than the 12ii? Thanks!
If you knew for certain, that bluefin or yellowfin you just hooked, would be in that size range. A 12 could get the job done, I'd feel better with the 16. There both good reels, 16 might give you more flexibility. Buy em both, then you won't have that dilemma.
 
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Looking to upgrade to a Talica 12ii or 16ii. I want a reel that will meet my needs for tuna in the 60-100# class. Any thoughts or insights? I have pretty small hands and think the 12ii would fit me better, but just wondering if the extra 85 ft of 65lb braid would make that big a difference. Also is the 16ii that much bigger than the 12ii? Thanks!
In my opinion if you need a two speed you'll need more line.
 
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    I have 2 12's and a 16. I prefer the 12 because it fits better in my hands. I've caught 90# YFT at Alijos Rocks all day and never had an issue with line capacity. Look at Berkley Pro Spec if you are concerned about line capacity. It is supposed to be thinner than other brands. I use my 16 as a 50# dropper loop set up.
     
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    2454 big mike

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    I have 2 12's and a 16. I prefer the 12 because it fits better in my hands. I've caught 90# YFT at Alijos Rocks all day and never had an issue with line capacity. Look at Berkley Pro Spec if you are concerned about line capacity. It is supposed to be thinner than other brands. I use my 16 as a 50# dropper loop set up.
    I agree if you can afford both but either or I'd pick the 16
     
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    I'd go with the 12 with 400 yds of 65#. If you're worried about capacity use 600 yds of 65# Maxcuatro.
     
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    if your only able to get one reel it would depend on what gear you already have.
    trying to fill a gap in your arsenal or just begining?

    will this be your heavy duty set up or do you already have gear for the big boys. i have both 12 & 16-2 i find less use for the 16 as time goes on seems like the 12 is able to do the same duty & more ie throw iron , yoyo, popper etc.

    the 16 has its place just not as versatile as the 12
     
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    bob1825

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    I'd go with the 12 with 400 yds of 65#. If you're worried about capacity use 600 yds of 65# Maxcuatro.

    Josaiah, If you ever plan to fish the Guadalupe, then put 80# pro spec or maxcuatro on the 12 or 16. The crew of the Shogun recommended 80# spectra minimum. I now have to switch out a couple of reels I use at the Lupe to 80# spectra.
     
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    Bantam1

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    As many others have stated, the only difference is line capacity. I fish 80# Power Pro Maxcuatro on the 12, and 100# MC on the 16.
     
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    jpun1

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    if your only able to get one reel it would depend on what gear you already have.
    trying to fill a gap in your arsenal or just begining?

    will this be your heavy duty set up or do you already have gear for the big boys. i have both 12 & 16-2 i find less use for the 16 as time goes on seems like the 12 is able to do the same duty & more ie throw iron , yoyo, popper etc.

    the 16 has its place just not as versatile as the 12

    I have a few reels already. Smallest to biggest, I have a Daiwa Lexa 400 HSP, Torium 20HGA, Avet MXJ-MC 2 speed. The Talica would be the next step up in my arsenal.
     
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    negitoro

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    While the BFT cow in my avitar was landed on a TLD 30, I would recommend the Talica 12. Its smaller size makes it more versatile. In fact, just before hooking the cow, I had just caught a 70 lbs BFT on the 12! That was an epic trip for me. I have caught a couple of other similar sized BFT on the 12. It handled very smoothly and easily. Other fish like YFT, YT and dodos have NO chance against the Talica 12. I have only needed low gear at the end of the fight with the 70+ lbs BFTs. I have #65 spectra with a top of #40 izorline. I use yozuri fluorocarbon.

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    One of the BFTs in the cart was caught with a large hammerhead lurking around. The hammerhead had gotten part of someone else's BFT. Near the end, I had to increase the drag and horse the fish in. the Talica did its job and the taxman wasn't paid.

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    calicobassguy

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    I suggest purchasing the Talica 12II. The 12 can handle a very large fish. You can actually cast with it extremely well. I love my Talica 12II and it gets the job done on almost ever thing that I target with a 2 speed reel. It's my favorite 2 speed reel in my arsenal and therefore used the most. If you need more line capacity than a 12II you are talking about an extremely large fish. If that's what you are fishing for and nothing else, I recommend skipping the 16 and go right up to the Talica 20II. The increased line capacity is not the reason for this suggestion. The gear ratio of "low" on the 20 is more preferred than the 16 if you hook a big one. Of course budget always has to be a concern.
     
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    Tom Honaker

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    How 80 MC on the 12?
    Fishing the longer soak at Guadalupe, or alijos. I'd feel more comfortable with the 16, due to line capacity. They are both great reels, just depends on the application youre using them for. I have 4 Cal sheet hot rodded out talicas, they are great reels!
     
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    JonathanMM

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    Get the Tac 12. Narrow, easy to handle, great drag and line capacity. I have 400 yard 65 Spec with 50 feet of 50/60 mono. I pulled in 135 YFT, no problem with line capacity. If your're worried, I set my buddies up with 500 yd of 65# MC and about 50-100 yd of 50# mono. He's not good at line management and the extra mono keeps him out of tangles.

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    Brah818

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    Try out the okuma makaira 16ii sea. I own talicas as well, three of em. Great reel. The mak16 is also a wonderful reel. Haven't let me down once.
     
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    negitoro

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    For what it's worth, I just caught this on my Talica 12. The butterball was estimated by Markus at 140 or more. The reel had 65 spectra with I guess 25 yds of 60 izorline. Lost a bunch of mono in a tangle that wrapped half the boat. Also used 6 foot leader of black water 60. So it can be done. Got very scary as the fish made 2 consecutive long runs. Wasn't sure I could stop him. Had drag past strike. Might have been easier on the 16. Basically, you can't go wrong.
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    jeff savage

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    I have all the talicas and think they are fantastic reels. My 12 gets fished WAY more than my 16. However, it has 65# braid on it and I fish 40-50# leader on it (biggest fish 80lb yft). If you really plan on fishing 60-100, I recommend you get the Talica 20. With that said, if I were only able to buy one Talica, it would be the 12 -- without hesitation.
     
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    Caseman

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    I agree with most about the 12. The 16 is overkill in size, mine has 550yds fins 85lb 40g. If I did it all over I would do the 12 with 65 and still have same capacity. It will cast and freespols better for live bait. My 16 sits and my 10 gets the workouts now.
     
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    fishnfool32

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    Big boys hitting the deck as of late. Both will do, but I'd go with a 16 or 20 80 lb and a 130-150 top. Landing rate on the pigs are being lost due to light gear.
    Crimp everything.
     
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