Surf perch fishing rod suggestions

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Hello I need some help looking for a surf fishing rod and the species I'm targeting is surfperch but the thing is that I'm new to surf fishing, and the rod I'm thinking of buying is the Shakespeare Ugly Stik Elite Salmon/Steelhead Spinning Rod in a 9-foot medium-power but I'm not sure if I should get in 8'6 and also I already have a reel which is the Penn pursuit iii size 2500. And I'm gonna be surf fishing at Newport, CA.
 

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u should be fine with both a 9 foot and 8'6. personally i just go with some random setups that are like 7'6 and it works fine. if its just for surf perch then most of the light to medium outfits out there work fine as long as you can cast the lure/baits out.
 
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u should be fine with both a 9 foot and 8'6. personally i just go with some random setups that are like 7'6 and it works fine. if its just for surf perch then most of the light to medium outfits out there work fine as long as you can cast the lure/baits out.
Thank you, I was just wondering what rod length I should get because in every article I read people say I recommend 11 foot rod, 9 foot rod or a 8 foot rod and gets very confusing
 
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Thank you, I was just wondering what rod length I should get because in every article I read people say I recommend 11 foot rod, 9 foot rod or a 8 foot rod and gets very confusing
i doubt they are targeting surf perch. they are probably targeting bigger species hence needing the farther casting distance. surf perch arent all that far out. I've found i usually get the most bites on incoming tide at sandbars around the area right before the waves break. just search up how to find the perch since i think its more important
 
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i doubt they are targeting surf perch. they are probably targeting bigger species hence needing the farther casting distance. surf perch arent all that far out. I've found i usually get the most bites on incoming tide at sandbars around the area right before the waves break. just search up how to find the perch since i think its more important
Yeah that's true surf perch aren't far, and also I have been watching some surf perch fishing tutorials and how to find them and I might just buy the 8'6 because where I'm gonna fish you can catch them not that far away
 
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i doubt they are targeting surf perch. they are probably targeting bigger species hence needing the farther casting distance. surf perch arent all that far out. I've found i usually get the most bites on incoming tide at sandbars around the area right before the waves break. just search up how to find the perch since i think its more important
And also thank you because It's been so confusing to find a surf perch rod
 
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And also thank you because It's been so confusing to find a surf perch rod
np. for specifically surf perch you really don't need too much. i take my friends for their first time to the beach and just give them a random rod and they do better than me half the time LOL. but then again, Im usually around knee deep in the water anyways just cause i like it
 
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    You're fine with that 9' rod.

    And by the way... As the water continues to warm, sand crabs will rise and the bite will transition to include yellowfin croaker, corbina and spotfin croaker. Soft shell crabs will consistently catch more fish than hardshells. Your setup with 6# or 8# mono will be great!
     
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    You're fine with that 9' rod.

    And by the way... As the water continues to warm, sand crabs will rise and the bite will transition to include yellowfin croaker, corbina and spotfin croaker. Soft shell crabs will consistently catch more fish than hardshells. Your setup with 6# or 8# mono will be great!
    yep those softshell catch everything. also i use jerkbaits to get the larger perch if they are really biting.
     
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    You're fine with that 9' rod.

    And by the way... As the water continues to warm, sand crabs will rise and the bite will transition to include yellowfin croaker, corbina and spotfin croaker. Soft shell crabs will consistently catch more fish than hardshells. Your setup with 6# or 8# mono will be great!
    Yeah I heard those sand crabs are good bait and also what size hook for those gulp sandworms 🧐
     
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    For 2" grubs and 2" Gulp sandworms, I like a Gamakatsu baitholder #6 hook. There's something about Gamakatsu that get more hook sets than Mustad, or Eagle Claw baitholders.
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    For sand crabs I like Caivo Nanowire #10 hooks (26 per pack) which are equivalent in size to Owner Mosquito #8 hooks at 1/3 the cost.

    (photo is #2 hooks, but #10 is the correct size)
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    And how do I know what size egg sinker to use by the conditions
    for me, i go light as possible. just what i like to do. if i feel the weight moving around then i move the weight up. if i feel it stay put then i just stick with it. usually i use like a 1/16 weight. i do usually use an ultralight rod i usually use with trout fishing though. it just makes it more fun for me. but i just go heavier with my line/setup. when i use my baitcaster setup i just go heavier.
     
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    For 2" grubs and 2" Gulp sandworms, I like a Gamakatsu baitholder #6 hook. There's something about Gamakatsu that get more hook sets than Mustad, or Eagle Claw baitholders.
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    For sand crabs I like Caivo Nanowire #10 hooks (26 per pack) which are equivalent in size to Owner Mosquito #8 hooks at 1/3 the cost.

    (photo is #2 hooks, but #10 is the correct size)
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    Ok that's good to know and I just bought some size 6 hooks so I have that checked off my list
     
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    for me, i go light as possible. just what i like to do. if i feel the weight moving around then i move the weight up. if i feel it stay put then i just stick with it. usually i use like a 1/16 weight. i do usually use an ultralight rod i usually use with trout fishing though. it just makes it more fun for me. but i just go heavier with my line/setup. when i use my baitcaster setup i just go heavier.
    Would a 1/2 oz egg sinker be fine for normal conditions?
     
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    Would a 1/2 oz egg sinker be fine for normal conditions?
    should be fine. just make sure to feel the line and you don't feel it rolling all over the place. if so then move up. your going to be reeling in slowly anyways but making sure its on the bottom is important (when using bait)
     
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    For setups, I prefer a 1 or 2 hook gangion over the Carolina rig. I also add a 6mm orange bead next to the hook to emulate sand crab roe. The gangion doesn't tangle as much as a Carolina rig and I can keep my crab in the zone for a longer period. I use a 1 ounce pyramid weight.
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    I also made my own sand crab rake from a Lowe's storage crate and 3/4" PVC pipe. It is 2lbs lighter than a metal Promar rake.
    Milk Crate Rake.jpg
     
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    should be fine. just make sure to feel the line and you don't feel it rolling all over the place. if so then move up. your going to be reeling in slowly anyways but making sure its on the bottom is important (when using bait)
    so if the conditions are pretty bad maybe a 3/4 oz?
     
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    For setups, I prefer a 1 or 2 hook gangion over the Carolina rig. I also add a 6mm orange bead next to the hook to emulate sand crab roe. The gangion doesn't tangle as much as a Carolina rig and I can keep my crab in the zone for a longer period. I use a 1 ounce pyramid weight.
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    I also made my own sand crab rake from a Lowe's storage crate and 3/4" PVC pipe. It is 2lbs lighter than a metal Promar rake.
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    i use this rig when i use sandcrabs. when i use the gulp worms i like to reel them and drag them on the ground so i go with the Carolina rig.
     
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    yep. just make your way up. that's for the Carolina rig though. if your using crabs then the rig above is a better way.
    Ok and more question what about those beads when doing a carolina rig because I know some people don't like using and some people really recommend doing it and I know its suppose to protect the knot from the swivel but I have some of those carolina keepers
     
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