star vs lever for yoyo?

wii888lo

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a talica 12ii vs a trini 20a ....i was thinking of adding another back up reel for yoyo..i been using a talica 12ii and have trini 16a but never used the trini for yoyo ....the trini was mainly used for casting surface or sometimes live bait ..... my question is would u use a trini for yoyo and what are the advantages of it ? tks
 
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Steve K

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Try the Trini 16 next trip. Same gearing so that will tell you something. I had always used star drags for YoYo fishing but went with lever drag last season. Advantage of lower gear once hooked up is nice.
 
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a talica 12ii vs a trini 20a ....i was thinking of adding another back up reel for yoyo..i been using a talica 12ii and have trini 16a but never used the trini for yoyo ....the trini was mainly used for casting surface or sometimes live bait ..... my question is would u use a trini for yoyo and what are the advantages of it ? tks
Star drags are a little more forgiving as you tighten them down. Until you get familiar with the lever drags add drag in very small increments. With time you will know how much drag to add for a given situation.
 
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i have been using a talica 12 for a few years as a yoyo reel. First season and a half all was fine. Now the handle gets hard to turn after a few trips. It free spools perfectly but VERY stiff to crank it. I think because the line is always wet, salt water is getting in between spool and frame. Now it has to torn down and cleaned every six months. Any ideas out there on a remedy????
 
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i never have any issue with my reels ...i break it down when I'm done fishing and finish it off right away n wipe it down before i put it in my reel bag ....when i get home i rerinse again and wipe down again ...end of season it get service ....yes salt do kill alotta stuff but proper care and matience goes a long way...if u look around ..them old farts still using reels that are 15-20 years old n do fine
 
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i find lever drags tedious for working artificials. the far throw of the lever on a ld might not seem like a big deal but over 1000 casts, drops etc i notice it and find it an irritation. so for me for cast and retrieve situations/jigging the star drag is king.
 
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i have been using a talica 12 for a few years as a yoyo reel. First season and a half all was fine. Now the handle gets hard to turn after a few trips. It free spools perfectly but VERY stiff to crank it. I think because the line is always wet, salt water is getting in between spool and frame. Now it has to torn down and cleaned every six months. Any ideas out there on a remedy????
Tear down and clean every 6 months is regular maintenance in my book. Very few tear down their reels enough. I do it every 4 months.

Only thing I can think is side load on the bearing hat would cause that, but if it isn't every trip, that is strange.
 
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Brad I

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For me, I've used both, and whether its star or lever in and of itself is not important. Speed of retrieve, ease of use, drags, capacity and how it feels in my hands are all the most important criteria for me. But as Steve K points out above, if the lever drag is a 2 speed, then having that low gear can come in handy on a big yellow. YMMV.
 
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Either one can do the job and it doesn't matter. I'm a deckhand so I get to try all kinds of reels out. And I can use either for surface irons yoyo bait etc. it really doesn't make a huge difference. I prefer star drag reels for surface irons. For yoyo it depends on where I'm fishing and what I'm fishing for. Here locally for me I can yoyo using a torium 16 or a single speed avet and have no issues and no need for a 2 speed. If I'm going to fishing out of San Diego I wudnt mind a reel like an Avet JX 2 speed or an avet raptor reel. I have an avet raptor sx but never use it except for tuna and big yellow fishing outta San Diego. As well as some of my other reels like the new toriums. Locally I fish Newell out penn 500, penn 140, avet sx, penn 555gs, sealine sl20sh, and Abu Garcia 5500 c4. So all in all it all depends what where and how it feels to u.
 
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I never use anything less than a 4/0 sized reel for yoyo. This year I took only one yt on a star drag reel- a 349H w/60#. Thought I had a drag, but..... I do not think there is any reason to let a yoyo fish have any line, period. That is best accomplished with a heavy drag and 2 speeds. My preference is for AVET(I'm very happy with them right now). HX 2 speed or a Raptor. Use a DX2-50 w/100 for heavy stuff like the JRI 8. Frankly, since I've gone completely to JRI, I need that cranking power, the strong drag and the low gear to effectively crank the brass 6's and 66's
 
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hucklongfin

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Star is better for surface iron. For yoyo I don't think it matters. These days I usually yoyo with a lever drag 2 speed like a Fathom 25N, Saltiga 40LD2 or JX 6/3 for 40 or a JX Raptor or HX Raptor for 50# and like it just fine.
 
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I like a lever drag and 2 speed for yoyo. My preference, not a necessity. After a long day of yoyo fishing it is nice to have the lower gear and get them in the boat. Less tiring...
 
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It's been rumored for years that AVET will make a star drag reel. Who knows? I might use one then. Right now I'm locked into Newell's and AVET's for the most part. Whether or not I'm fishing surface iron with a 338 or and LX, it's the HX & 60 for the deep stuff.
 
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It's been rumored for years that AVET will make a star drag reel. Who knows? I might use one then. Right now I'm locked into Newell's and AVET's for the most part. Whether or not I'm fishing surface iron with a 338 or and LX, it's the HX & 60 for the deep stuff.
I'm 70 yrs old I use super 12lt. you never miss. for young dude they use anything.
 
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Both reels will get her done. It's what your most comfortable with when yoyoing. You could always set up one for the jig and one for the dropper loop. That way you have both applications covered in case one gets bit better than the other.
 
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Once you try hauling in a big YT from deep down on low gear, most likely you will love 2-speed reels a lot. It's so much easier and fun.
Even though it's all about personal preferences, in my case I like to use my Saltiga 35 2 speed for yoyo and Trinidad 20 or 20A for throwing surface irons.
 
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