star drag or lever for jigs/irons???

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  1. blooddrunkfishkrew

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    Why are star drags better than lever for irons and does anyone have an input on the daiwa saltist 35 or 40 black gold... don't know which one to get?!?!??! Will be fishing 40 lbs mono on an 8 ft rod....
     
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    there is no 100% star drags better. Its what you want. I use lever drag for everything
     
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    Whichever reel that YOU feel most comfortable with is ok with me. :puff:

    Personally, I don't own one of those new-fangled lever drag reels that are alledged to cast as nice as my star drag reels do. :D
     
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    Typically star drags cast better, there are a lot of new l/d reels that cast very nice,though.
    A star drag is quicker, easier to shift into gear,when bit on the sink. You do not have to worry about hitting tha STRIKE position. Just flip the shifter and WIND.

    Bottom line it is a preference thing.
     
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    hawkplayer32 I'd rather be fishing.

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    The 40 is much wider but still very comftorable to cast. If you plan on using spectra backing then line capacity will be an issue with the 35.
     
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    J.AkuHed I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    It's all about disengaging the spool so it can spin. With star drag reels, once you disengage the the gears and put the spool into freespool, the drags, contained in the gears, do not touch the spool. With lever drag reels the drag is in the spool so when put into free spool, the disc and the drag are still in touch with each other, causing some friction. That's the theory, however, some lever drags cast well star drags because of how they are built. The choice is up to you and your casting technique.
     
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    sTAR DRAG DAIWA BG SERIES ARE GREAT I HAVE BOTH THE 35 AND 40 MODELS.
     
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    J.AkuHed I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I have 35 lever drag and a 30T star drag and both cast very well. However, I use the 30T casting jigs and use the 35 for bait.
     
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    lever
     
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    I think that most importantly, its about knowing how to use your gear, and being confident in its perfomance....... i.e., you dont want to have to adjust a star drag reel under the load of a big fish.

    My preference is a lever drag, because you can set it to "strike", measure the drag pressure with a scale, (adjust to whatever the max pressure your rig can reasonably hold up to), then; hook a fish, and have a "max" point to push the lever too.

    With a star drag, you just don't know what the next click will do.......it might seem like a big fish it taking line too easily, but if the next click exceeds your line class in drag pressure, well, don't be surprised when you pull or straighten a hook......or, "snap goes the dragon".


    .....just my $.02
     
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    My casting lever drags are Avet LX, JX and HX. They cast like crap compared to my star drags: Fathom 25n, Saltist 40H, Daiwa Sealine and Newell.
     
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    You said it in the 1st line Avet use a real lever drag big difference
     
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    skipjackrobert I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Avets cast great and mine throw as far as my star drags...
     
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    I have a saltist 35BG and I love it. The 35 and the 40 are the exact same except that the 35 is a narrow spool. The narrow spool is great if you're going to be doing a lot of casting or jigging. It's easier and faster to guide the line back on while winding. I put 50 lb braid backing on mine and 50 yard top shot of 30lb mono. Never have I ever worried about line capacity. I probably have around 300 yards of line on there total.
     
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    It depends on what you're looking to do with your combo. If you're fishing small to medium sized surface iron/poppers you want to use a star drag reel because you can't cast them with anything else. Can you throw a 2oz popper or a Tady A1 with a lever drag, no. If you're fishing a yoyo jig or a bigger surface iron like a 7x you can get away with a lever drag since the lures are heavier. If you go with something like a Penn FTH25n/Daiwa 35 and an 8 foot rod, you can fish surface iron or yoyo.
     
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    It depends on what you're looking to do with your combo. If you're fishing small to medium sized surface iron/poppers you want to use a star drag reel because you can't cast them with anything else. Can you throw a 2oz popper or a Tady A1 with a level drag, no. If you're fishing a yoyo jig or a bigger surface iron like a 7x you can get away with a level drag since the lures are heavier. If you go with something like a Penn FTH25n/Daiwa 35 and an 8 foot rod, you can fish surface iron or yoyo.
     
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    When fishing with a jig, I preset my drag and NEVER re-adjust with a fish on.
     
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    Then you're the exception and not the norm. I've personaaly seen numerous folks do it and I just kinda scratch my head and wonder why.

    I think it goes back to the original point of knowing your gear and being confident in it, and your own abilities to fish it properly.

    Just because... I'm a lever fan. Had many Trinidads and sold them all, cheap, to go back to the lever for the same reason Mikey mentioned. I like knowing with confidence where the drag pressure is, not guessing.
     
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    I agree. And being able to increase the drag when needed in a controlled and measurable way gets those unexpected big ones in the box
     
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    Awsome!!! I love daiwa for casting.... a couple of trips ago I went out of HM and the bait was crap. So towards the end of the day I started throwing an iron and a caughtt three yellowfin.... after hooking up people started throwing their irons using their avett MC cast and they were all having difficulties throwing them....
     

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