Discussion in 'Vintage Fishing Boats, Gear & Stuff' started by Eric's Tackle, May 9, 2013.
If you ever want to sell that jig, I would be interested.
I ran the New Salty Dog for Sid and Marion Moore for 2 years when it was new. Excellent boat and it fished well. We had 2 500 fish albacore days with it, one day passenger trips out of Morro Bay.Dick Helgren was always pissed when he ran his Electra in Morro Bay because he had to tie outside of us. He used to complain no one could even see his boat. The New Salty Dog was actually 100 feet long. It was built by Ditmar Donaldson in their yard in Costa Mesa. It may have been the largest DD ever built. Sid always said Bill Poole was ticked when he found out it was 5 feet longer than his new boat. Sid build his first 80' Salty Dog in his back yard in the SF Bay Area. He built it from DD plans he had puchased. Not a very tight build. He actually used "air ball" on the house instead of fiberglass. Later became the H&M 80 ran by George Wier. Sid's next boat, the Salty Dog 95, was built by DD in their yard. Yes, it became the Finalista 100 and burned, with passengers on board, while fishing out of Morro Bay. Sid powered his boats with Cat 343s. A very good engine. But, very weak aluminum duplex fuel filter housings. Any restriction in the fuel system would cause these canisters to split and often spray fuel right at the red hot turbo. It happened to me on the New Salty Dog, but I was fortunately in the engine room to witness it and got the engine quickly shut down. When I quit the boat in 1976 Sid sold it to Bill Poole who later sold it to Dick Helgren who named it the O'side 95. Great riding, low profile boat. Many years later Dick told me there was still new construction saw dust in the lazzerette. BTW - that shaggy old dog of Sid and Marion's was actually a spoiled rotten schnauzer named "Misty". Sid was a different kind of guy to work for. He wasn't much of a fisherman, and realized it. But, he learned how to build good boat. Last saw Mike Fullilove in Hueneme where he was running harbor tugs and enjoying life. Knew Howie Clark well. We (Howie - El Dorado, Roger and Kenny Hess - Toronado, and myself - New Salty Dog) had a lot of competition and fun fishing albacore out of Morro Bay. We were the first boat to have a Wesmar scanning sonor. Worked great once we learned how to use it.
First time I ever went fishing was with my Dad on the Estrella out of Pacific Landing in LB. Outdoor galley and drop down seat boards from the rail. All we caught that day was tom cod, but I thought it was great.
I fished both the HM80 and the Finalista 100 with George Wier. While getting on the Finalista 100 (which was only 95) the Salty dog 95 was next to us at H&M.
The Salty Dog 95 and the Finalista were sister ships built by D&D.
Recall a time when George Wier ran the H&M 80 and his brother Bobby ran the H & M 85. Certainly 2 different individuals. The New Salty Dog (100 ') did run out of H & M for a short time. Later to run from Virg's Morro Bay, San Pedro Sportfishing (landing owner Gene Gregson) and Oceanside Sportfishing (also landing owner Gene Gregson). Gregson at one time had operations in Oceanside, Long Beach, San Pedro, Santa Barbara and Morro Bay, quite the empire. He managed to mess up all of them. Gregson actually came from the remnants of Pierpoint Landing. He may have been related, by marriage, to the Van Camps. His holding company had the non sportfishing name of Mattawa Land and Cattle Company.
I fished with Bobby in 1958 on the Sportfisher IV!Tom
What's the history of the Relentless
Shogun, Topgun, Relentless.
it was the Seeker and now Changed too the
Shogun, Topgun, Relentless, Seeker, Relentless.
ware Did Sal Go, after Chuck Sold the Boat
Great Capitan to Fish with.
I only knew the history while it was at FL, which was Norm Kigawa (Shogun), Bob Taft (Topgun), Joel Ralston (Relentless). Once Joel took it over to H&M I lost track of it.
Commander Sinks off Dana/ Oceanside 10-12-2016. Former names ( built in 1959)Cat Special,Red Raider, Produser, Predetor, Dolhin II, Commander.
See post #294 The Catalina Special was built for Norm Hagen ( Norms Landing)
HEARD THE CAT SPECIAL IS NOW THE ELIPSE?
No, this is the original Cat Special.
The Eclipse was built by Bob Fletcher, named Cat Special ,maybe early 80's.
what were the previous names of the CHIEF?
the chief was the "big game 90" not too long ago,
Read post #6... and the whole thread for that matter... very nostalgic reading
i agree its one of the coolest threads ever!
very interesting seeing the history of the boats and the sport we all love!
i especially love the old photos!
Now the Tomahawk.
Who built the triple screw Patrician, I recall it had a brief stint in the 80s running out of Dana Point?
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