Sinker rig vs jig

Jul 30, 2020
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OK so I am a bit confused. Not anything new by the way. If fishing a sinker rig target fish size? I am guessing the 60 to 200 pound fish. If fishing a jig target fish size? I am guessing 60 to 200 pound fish. Using 60 to 100 pound set ups. When using a sinker I am using what ever line class 60 to 100 pound test to the hook. When using a jig need to upgrade to 200 to 400 pound bite leader. Why? Most fish I have seen flopping around on the deck the jig is not down the throat of the fish, most are mouth hooked just like when live bait fishing
 
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Gouryella

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OK so I am a bit confused. Not anything new by the way. If fishing a sinker rig target fish size? I am guessing the 60 to 200 pound fish. If fishing a jig target fish size? I am guessing 60 to 200 pound fish. Using 60 to 100 pound set ups. When using a sinker I am using what ever line class 60 to 100 pound test to the hook. When using a jig need to upgrade to 200 to 400 pound bite leader. Why? Most fish I have seen flopping around on the deck the jig is not down the throat of the fish, most are mouth hooked just like when live bait fishing
Well people who use sinker rig's generally use it with circle hooks, so the chances of hooking a fish on the corner of the mouth is greater. Also a factor for the lighter leader on a sinker rig is so the bait has room to move.

Jigs on the other hand, you have to try to set the hook quickly once you feel a bite or the fish will throat the jig + some of your leader and your chances of getting chewed off is greater. Hence why many people who use jigs use heavier leaders (you're not guaranteed to always hook a fish on the mouth all the time). I heard stories of people get chewed off on jigs, flyers, madmacs, etc since they didn't set the hook in a timely manner.
 
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hucklongfin

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Sinker rig with a circle hook usually hooks them in the corner. Dropping a Jig down deep often gets inhaled hooking them in the throat… need a heavy leader to not get chewed off.
 

Rubberhook2

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In my experience most of the fish caught on jigs inhale them down their throats. When dropping and you get to the target level and the jig stops it has been inhaled. I never fish a circle hook at night on jigs. It's all 5/0 4X trebles. More points more betta. 100lb + bluefin have some gnarly teeth so I am using a 36 inch 300lb MONO bite leader at night and get bit just fine. Same leader on a sinker rig for the same reasons. I cast a lot of these heavy jigs downwind at night if boat is drifting fast to minimize scope so never more than 36 inches for castability when the ball bearing swivel is at the rod tip.

Stealth fishing is for daylight hours....
 
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Rubberhook2

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For the life of me I do not understand the thinking behind using a circle hook on either a sinker or jig at night for bluefin where your typical bites come on the sink at 200 to 400 feet while your bombing your jig/sinker straight down.

When I think circle hook I think stealth fishing where I would be concerned about getting chewed off. Like fishing 60lb with a sardine on 100lb fish. That fish could easily chew threw 60lb if hooked inside the mouth so the circle protects against those teeth.

So what is the advantage of using a circle hook at night? No bite leader so you straight tie to 100lb to avoid getting chewed off? Why? Do you think these fish will bite better at night on lighter line? Do you really think that a 16 oz torpedo sinker on lighter line will have more "action" or as previously stated give the bait "room to move" when bombing down as fast as you can? No, that sinker will fall straight down regardless.

Now that you have hooked the fish in the corner of its mouth with a 16 ounce sinker attached to the circle hook hanging outside it's mouth, what do you think happens when the fish violently shakes its head back and forth and flares its gills? You think that heavy weight may act as leverage to dislodge that hook?

I fish large trebles and use heavy bite leaders because I WANT to hook the fish in it's throat. I want the deckhand to have to open the gill plate to dig my jig out. If hooked in the throat and the hook pulls it will more than likely rehook on the way out on either the treble or assist hook up top. And nothing puts a smile on my face like seeing a smoke trail of blood streaming out of the fish as it circles below me from a torn gill raker from the treble.

I would never use a circle hook at night for bluefin on either sinker or jig. There is absolutely no need for it. I have absolutely no problem getting bit on 300lb mono leaders tied to 130lb mono top shots. Have never been chewed off on 300lb....

Convince me otherwise...

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jer dog

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For the life of me I do not understand the thinking behind using a circle hook on either a sinker or jig at night for bluefin where your typical bites come on the sink at 200 to 400 feet while your bombing your jig/sinker straight down.

When I think circle hook I think stealth fishing where I would be concerned about getting chewed off. Like fishing 60lb with a sardine on 100lb fish. That fish could easily chew threw 60lb if hooked inside the mouth so the circle protects against those teeth.

So what is the advantage of using a circle hook at night? No bite leader so you straight tie to 100lb to avoid getting chewed off? Why? Do you think these fish will bite better at night on lighter line? Do you really think that a 16 oz torpedo sinker on lighter line will have more "action" or as previously stated give the bait "room to move" when bombing down as fast as you can? No, that sinker will fall straight down regardless.

Now that you have hooked the fish in the corner of its mouth with a 16 ounce sinker attached to the circle hook hanging outside it's mouth, what do you think happens when the fish violently shakes its head back and forth and flares its gills? You think that heavy weight may act as leverage to dislodge that hook?

I fish large trebles and use heavy bite leaders because I WANT to hook the fish in it's throat. I want the deckhand to have to open the gill plate to dig my jig out. If hooked in the throat and the hook pulls it will more than likely rehook on the way out on either the treble or assist hook up top. And nothing puts a smile on my face like seeing a smoke trail of blood streaming out of the fish as it circles below me from a torn gill raker from the treble.

I would never use a circle hook at night for bluefin on either sinker or jig. There is absolutely no need for it. I have absolutely no problem getting bit on 300lb mono leaders tied to 130lb mono top shots. Have never been chewed off on 300lb....

Convince me otherwise...

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Eddie jig,, with out the leader going down the weight.
 
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DaleR

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I like reading about the techniques ya'll use West Coast. Gives me ideas to think about and maybe give a try.


It's wierd here in Texas we don't hardly catch Yellow fin on jigs at.all. We catch tons of small blackfin, an occasional barely legal to small keeper yellowfin on jigs.

Our yellows just don't hit the jigs on regular basis. Almost all of them are.caught throwing swim baits, poppers, or floating flying fish lures. We just don't catch too many of them down deep.

I'm not sure why though.
 
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nicodemus

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For the life of me I do not understand the thinking behind using a circle hook on either a sinker or jig at night for bluefin where your typical bites come on the sink at 200 to 400 feet while your bombing your jig/sinker straight down.

When I think circle hook I think stealth fishing where I would be concerned about getting chewed off. Like fishing 60lb with a sardine on 100lb fish. That fish could easily chew threw 60lb if hooked inside the mouth so the circle protects against those teeth.

So what is the advantage of using a circle hook at night? No bite leader so you straight tie to 100lb to avoid getting chewed off? Why? Do you think these fish will bite better at night on lighter line? Do you really think that a 16 oz torpedo sinker on lighter line will have more "action" or as previously stated give the bait "room to move" when bombing down as fast as you can? No, that sinker will fall straight down regardless.

Now that you have hooked the fish in the corner of its mouth with a 16 ounce sinker attached to the circle hook hanging outside it's mouth, what do you think happens when the fish violently shakes its head back and forth and flares its gills? You think that heavy weight may act as leverage to dislodge that hook?

I fish large trebles and use heavy bite leaders because I WANT to hook the fish in it's throat. I want the deckhand to have to open the gill plate to dig my jig out. If hooked in the throat and the hook pulls it will more than likely rehook on the way out on either the treble or assist hook up top. And nothing puts a smile on my face like seeing a smoke trail of blood streaming out of the fish as it circles below me from a torn gill raker from the treble.

I would never use a circle hook at night for bluefin on either sinker or jig. There is absolutely no need for it. I have absolutely no problem getting bit on 300lb mono leaders tied to 130lb mono top shots. Have never been chewed off on 300lb....

Convince me otherwise...

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Jesus. What did the nightime bluefin order for dinner? I'll take the five-point big-ass-hook salad with a side of lead, please.
 
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Rubberhook2

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Jesus. What did the nightime bluefin order for dinner? I'll take the five-point big-ass-hook salad with a side of lead, please.
I like it. I tell you one thing, when a big ol' bluefin eats the sinker jig with a big 5/0 treble hook hanging off of it, and you let it eat it a good long time.....it will not be falling off LOL LOL LOL

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