Short Report: 2015 June 15-20 Alan Tani Spirit of Adventure Charter

Amadeus

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Mar 17, 2011
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Wai Jung
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Seahawk II
Extremely short version:
San Benitos, Cedros, San Martin, 25 anglers, 355 Yellowtail + misc bottom fish. Largest YT on the boat was 46 lb (measured by Sarah at Five Star) but it WASN'T mine. :(

Short version:
Day 1:
  • Travel
Day 2:
  • Travel until 12pm-ish, began trolling rotations until reaching Benitos; latter rotation(s) picked up some YT
  • Started fly-lining and jigging around 3pm-ish for quality sized YT in the 20-40+lb range until dark
  • Night fishing until 11:30pm resulting in some whitefish and calicos; highlight was a shark that kept snapping Alan's and Randy's (of Vintage Offshore Tackle) dropper loops. Both switched to wire leader and Randy scored the culprit--C&R'd successfully.
Day 3:
  • Fly-lining and jigging at daybreak in multiple spots around Benitos for more 20-40+lb YT
  • Did Alan's Laser Minnow competiion
  • Some night fishing; but all was done by 10:30pm; results unknown, but no one was talking about it the next day so maybe not as eventful as previous night
Day 4:
  • More fly-lining and jigging at Benitos in the morning
  • Made run to Cedros westside; some YT but not as good as Benitos
  • Did Alan's "Rick Berg's Wacky jigs" competition
  • Came round to eastside for Calicos; got YT, calicos, whitefish, reds, perch, bonitos, and snotsticks; some of first five C&R'd; all of latter two C&R'd.
  • Made ROUGH overnight run to San Martin
Day 5:
  • Fished San Martin and got YT, calicos, whitefish, reds, perch, bonitos, and snotsticks;
  • Capt Mike called it trip at 3pm and headed for the barn
What worked for me
  • Daiwa 30H enhanced with CF washers and power handle + Okuma Catalina CT-C-661MH; 65lb braid, 30lb mono topshot, 30lb fluoro leader

  • Tiburonized Penn 27 with SS gear sleeve, 13-200 Surfmaster pinion, 24-56 crank + Okuma CT-T-601M; 50lb braid, 40lb mono topshot, 40lb fluoro leader
  • Penn 970 with 24-349 handle + Okuma CT-T-601M; 50lb braid, 40lb mono topshot, 40lb fluoro leader
  • Okuma CD-65 enhanced with CF washers + Daiwa CC701XHFS & Daiwa STW70MHS; 50lb braid, 25lb mono topshot
  • Daiwa CF4000 + Daiwa CC701XHFS; 40lb braid, 20lb topshot
  • Fin-nor LT100 + Daiwa STW70MHS; 50lb braid, 50lb mono topshot
  • Fin-nor LT100 + Daiwa STJ70XHFS; 100lb braid, 100lb mono topshot
Since the conventionals were a known quantity, the two Fin-nors were the setups of more interest that needed more proving. Both were used for yoyo-ing, the 50lb with a blue and white Sumo Jr. and the 100lb with a blue and white Sumo 6. Both hooked up to YT on the retrieve.

The 50lb-er (with 15 lbs drag from top of spool) got the bigger one (the darker back one underneath the more silver one):


...with no issues. Guessing about 44 inches.

The 100lb-er (with 22 lbs drag from top of spool) got this one (the smaller one at the bottom):


...but 2/3 of way into the fight, the handle came OFF!!! Deckhand JP help slam the handle back on to the handle shaft and I made sure the last 1/3 of the fight was retrieved with little or no lateral force on the handle. After the YT had been gaffed (guessing about 40 inches), a closer inspection of the handle showed that the securing bolt had snapped.





The breakage occurred about 2-3mm below the screwhead. When I swap the broken handle with the intact one from the 50lb-er, the 100lb-er still cranked just as smoothly. Will be contacting Fin-nor...

All-in-all, a great trip regardless of equipment failure.
 
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stank

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How do you like the 970 with 40#?

I might dust mine off for my next trip...
 

hucklongfin

Deep release specialist
Jul 3, 2003
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Like Wai, this was my second one of Alan's charters on the SOA. I got 18 YT, one on an Avet MXJ w/25# on a Cousins CJB75MH, 2 on yoyo on an Avet JX Raptor w/50# and a 6X on a Phenix psw700xh, 7 on a Penn Fathom LD25N2 w/40# on a Phenix psw760h, 7 on an Avet SX Raptor w/30# on a Phenix psw809h and one on a Penn Battle 6000 w/40# on a Shimano Teramar tss80xh. I used a bunch of other stuff too (waxwings, Flatfalls, surface iron, Megabaits, stick baits, poppers) for nothing, well, no YT anyway! I ate too much, drank too much, had a great time and will go again next year!
 

Amadeus

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Mar 17, 2011
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Wai Jung
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Seahawk II
How do you like the 970 with 40#?

I might dust mine off for my next trip...
I liked it given its 4:1 gearing...but...these reels are gaining in value (just check out eBay) AND replacement parts are hard to come by, especially the side plates which seem to be the reel's weakness. I have already replaced one left side plate. Though I do have a spare parts reel with both side plates intact, I'm putting mine into retirement until I can install pillar bedding for all the screw holes in this spare set. With reinforced plates, I would then feel better about fishing my 970 again.
 

stank

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Piller bedding?

I replaced the gears, springs, dog, drag & handle on mine about 5 years ago and I don't think I've fished it since.

Side plate breaking may be due to over tightening. With everyone using aluminum side plates & stainless screws things have gotten much tighter.

I use purple Loctite (222?) and just snug them good. Works as both anti-seize & anti-corrosion.
 

Roofiem

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Thanks for the report... Couple add-on questions,

Any colors other than blue/wht work for you?
How long of spectra and top shot is on your LT100? Spooling mine w/ 50# tomorrow.

Thanks, and glad your trip was a great one!
 

Amadeus

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Mar 17, 2011
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Wai Jung
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Seahawk II
Thanks for the report... Couple add-on questions,

Any colors other than blue/wht work for you?
How long of spectra and top shot is on your LT100? Spooling mine w/ 50# tomorrow.

Thanks, and glad your trip was a great one!
The scrambled egg was working until I lost it late Tuesday afternoon.

There's at least 450yds of 50lb braid and usually a top shot of 1.5x to 2.0x rod length.
 

Amadeus

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Mar 17, 2011
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Wai Jung
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Seahawk II
Piller bedding?

I replaced the gears, springs, dog, drag & handle on mine about 5 years ago and I don't think I've fished it since.

Side plate breaking may be due to over tightening. With everyone using aluminum side plates & stainless screws things have gotten much tighter.

I use purple Loctite (222?) and just snug them good. Works as both anti-seize & anti-corrosion.
It's a technique that I "inadvertently" borrowed from a means to improve accuracy in bolt-action rifles:
http://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/guns/rifles/2007/09/pillar-bed-your-rifle

The 970 side plates' inner surface doesn't sit flush to the rings; the outer edge sits on the lip of the ring allowing a gap to exist. And, yes, any over-tightening of the screws could cause an inner blowout of the plate around the screw holes. By installing hollow metal "pillars" epoxied to the plate that provided flush contact the ring, the screws can be tighten without causing damage while still holding the plate in place. However, this requires centered, drilling out the inner lip of the existing screw holes in the plate to accommodate the pillars--an irreversible change to plates that are already rare. Hence my hesitation.
 

hucklongfin

Deep release specialist
Jul 3, 2003
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Mission Viejo
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MarkT
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Blazer Bay 1860
Thanks for the report... Couple add-on questions,

Any colors other than blue/wht work for you?
How long of spectra and top shot is on your LT100? Spooling mine w/ 50# tomorrow.

Thanks, and glad your trip was a great one!
I got one on a blue/white 6X, lost it, and got another on a mint/white 7X heavy. It was the only lure I lost.
 

hucklongfin

Deep release specialist
Jul 3, 2003
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MarkT
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Blazer Bay 1860
We did some trolling and paddy fishing on the morning we got to San Benitos.
 

Steve K

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Jan 2, 2005
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Steve
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18' Bayrunner, but I like the American Angler and the Red Rooster III
Did you guys fish any time off shore?
Was going to ask a similar question. Sometimes it can be a real wasteland between Isla San Martin and Islas San Benito. But with reports of Yellowfin from the short range fleet, ya gotta ask.
 
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Amadeus

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Wai Jung
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FOLLOW UP ON THE FIN-NOR HANDLE:

I emailed Fin-Nor on Saturday 6/20 and got a response for my address on Monday 6/23. Today, 6/24, got this:

Hello Waiman,

We are sending you three handles. One of them is made for the Finnor LT100. The other 2 are Quantum handles that we would like you to try. You will receive 2 separate orders. Please let us know how the Quantum handles work verses the Finnor handle.

Thank you for contacting us,

Fin-Nor Service
6105 E. Apache
Tulsa, OK 74115
800-588-9030

Will post another follow-up once I get the handles.
 
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Amadeus

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Wai Jung
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The replacement handles for the LT100 arrived. Here they are:


The one on the right is the direct replacement, and it has a flatten-sides knob versus the original egg one.

The left one is the Quantum handle that Fin Nor Service want me the try out. It has a one-piece, machined arm also with a flatten-sides knob.


When lining up the handles, original and replacements, there are visible variations in the thread pitch:

From left to right, 1st LT100 (purchased May 2014) handle, 2nd LT100 (purchased Feb 2015), replacement LT100 handle, and replacement Quantum handle.

In fitting the replacements, here are the results:

LT100 replacement handle
  • COULD NOT thread in all the way on the May 2014 LT100 on neither side of the reel
  • Treaded on to the Feb 2015 LT100 on both sides

Quantum replacement handle
  • COULD NOT thread in all the way on the May 2014 LT100 on neither side of the reel
  • Treaded on to the Feb 2015 LT100 only on the left side

A rather interesting outcome to say the least, pointing to notable variations between different LT100 production runs.

For now, I'm going to go with the Quantum handle as the replacement for the broken one on the Feb 2015 LT100 since the one-piece arm has less parts to subject to Murphy's law. I will, however, have the other handles along and nearby for "just-in-case."