Shocking Story of DDT Dumping in San Pedro Channel

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    I was informed of a report about DDT dumping in our ocean water long ago which is still haunting us. LA Times has a jolting publication about Montrose Chemical company that dumped tons of DDT into the San Pedro Channel along with discarding DDT through the sewer pipe off the Palos Verdes shelf.

    We live on this planet, we survive from the resources of this planet. Let's be better stewards. Link to the story is attached. God Bless.
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    Omarkayak

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    Although they gave it a shot trying to bury the stuff on the shelf it was only mildly successful. Maybe if they gave it two shits I mean shots. Or ten more likely.

    The stuff in the channel is a whole nother thing. It's like, 3,000 feet deep. Just identifying the limits will be a huge challenge. Remote submersibles or maybe they could drag around a pH meter just off the bottom and could see it as a bump (drop) of 0.1 units or something coming off the sulfuric acid carrier, if it's not all neutralized. Mitigating it will be a whole nother nother thing. Half a million drums worth they estimate if I recall (maybe it was half a millions gallons--a lot less but still a lot).

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    reelbadlarry

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    And Millions upon Millions of people would be dead without DDT. Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease. But I would give good money for some good ole black flag insecticide with DDT in it. They figured it out, that it was bad for bird eggs and stopped using it. My brothers and sisters played in those clouds back east on the Marine bases.
    To me this is another story of professor finds cash cow to help him from finding real job. They are all just looking for a problem to get grants to keep doing whatever it is they do.
     

    swami 805

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    That's just what we know about, the ocean was used as a giant dumping ground for industry and the military for many years. Thankfully we hopefully know better now.
    DDT is very effective but we have much better products now, work as well without the drawbacks.
     

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    wow. previous generations have NEVER known about the DDT off the coast. :eek:
    I think that you arm-waving young'uns should go off the coast of PV and start diggin' that crap off the ocean floor. Oh. Wait a minute. that was tried DECADES ago. It was then discovered that if the DDT impregnated into the ocean bottom was left alone, it was doing no harm. But if disturbed, the DDT would spread through the water table and spread with the currents.... becoming an active "problem"
    Have you ever heard the phrase "Let sleeping dogs lie."?

    Was dumping crap in the ocean decades ago not such a good idea? yeah. Has it stopped? nope.......
     
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    This too will fall by the way side...people will forget ....
    When we grew up in north OC we lived along Los Coyotes Golf course
    We played around the Super Fund McCall Dumpsite military waste pits. During the winter we floated down the golf course on rafts. The water ran down from the dumpsite at Rosecrans down to Malvern.
    When the dumpsite was cleaned up years ago, years after we grew up, the gov was going to track health issues with all of us that grew up there... only thing that came out of it was a FB site tracking cancers etc. I put it in the rear view mirror and live life
     

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    This too will fall by the way side...people will forget ....
    When we grew up in north OC we lived along Los Coyotes Golf course
    We played around the Super Fund McCall Dumpsite military waste pits. During the winter we floated down the golf course on rafts. The water ran down from the dumpsite at Rosecrans down to Malvern.
    When the dumpsite was cleaned up years ago, years after we grew up, the gov was going to track health issues with all of us that grew up there... only thing that came out of it was a FB site tracking cancers etc. I put it in the rear view mirror and live life
    I looked up Super Fund Sites in CA, I was shocked to see so many. In some cases, Businesses made huge profits, then left the mess for Tax Payers to clean up!
     
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    Unfortunately, this did happen.
    This is actually very old news though. My dad and I had a book we bought back in the 90’s regarding DDT and other PCV’s chemicals dumped there.

    Nothing new. Yeah, I wish those people got punished for there actions.

    There is nothing bad with bringing awareness again.

    The question now, what is the best thing to do?

    Perhaps leaving it is the wises thing.

    When Exxon Valdez happened, more damage was done to areas “cleaned up” then left alone. I am sure science has advanced substantially, but it is debatable what is the best course action.
    Cleanups must happen if any with this lesson in mind.

    If it was super bad, we wouldnt have had seen such good fishing in a past Nino there, when I caught my first YT on the surface iron, and a Dorado was caught on the Surface Iron. I was on the Enterprise.

    We have seen the Bald Eagle population come back near Catalina.

    Chemicals are dispersed through lava flows under the sea all the time that are toxic. It would be good sea some comparables there vs this dumping, but you wont hear about them, unless Oceanography is your major.
    Moreover, deep ocean does preserve wrecks from oxidization corrosion.
     
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    plj46

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    I would imagine most of the DDT has already been diluted and dispersed by now ? Those drums sure don't look intact.
     
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    plj46

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    I guess the Vampire Squid, Coffin Fish, Sea Urchins, , Anglerfish, and Frogfish, turn invisible on the bottom Too.
    You said coral reefs.They live in shallow water.I'm not condoning the dumping,i'm just wondering if the DTT hasn't dissipated after all these years.Steel drums don't hold up well in saltwater.
     
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    Larry S

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    You said coral reefs.They live in shallow water.I'm not condoning the dumping,i'm just wondering if the DTT hasn't dissipated after all these years.Steel drums don't hold up well in saltwater.
    I am with you brother! Not against you, Brother.
     

    Larry S

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    these shots were filmed up to 3 miles deep

    Googled

    "Deepwater corals thrive at the bottom of the ocean, but can't escape human impacts. When people think of coral reefs, they typically picture warm, clear waters with brightly colored corals and fishes. But other corals live in deep, dark, cold waters, often far from shore in remote locations.Dec 3, 2018"
     
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