Offshore SF bay area towing service

iambronado

Newbie
Dec 31, 2021
18
1
30
Elk Grove
Name
Jake
Boat Name
Hobie Revo
Hello all, usually fishing SF bay, Halfmoon Bay and Bodega, with the possibility of fishing Fort Bragg and out of Eureka in the future. Is towboat U.S the only game in town? Would like the added insurance while I am on the water, and I know that these services would pay for itself 10x if I end up having issues on the water.
Thanks!
 
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MYNomad

Heading South
Dec 12, 2007
4,748
6,274
Pacific Northwest / West Coast Mexico
Name
Rick
Boat Name
Yes
I question whether tow insurance is a good investment, at least not for a boat that is well maintained and reliable. I haven't had tow insurance since my trailer boat days (and those boats were not reliable so insurance at that time may have been worthwhile), and that was over 30 years ago. I also haven't needed a tow in all that time. I figure that the money I saved over the years, invested at an 8% return (and all of my marginal dollars are invested and my average return is higher than that, but not everyone has my investment opportunities) has a compounded value today of over $12K. Now, you might say that ignores tax, although I do favor sheltered and deferred tax investments, but even assuming I earned only 4% after tax on those saved dollars, it is still over $6K saved. Moreover, my boat policy provides tow coverage -- and much better coverage than Boat US, which basically limits coverage to something like 100 miles out of their covered ports. So, a breakdown at Cortez bank or most of the Mexican offshore banks would not be covered. My boat policy provides coverage throughout my nav limits, which is as far offshore as I want to go, and as far south as Panama, and Alaska in the Pacific (but not the Bering Sea). There is a deductible, but not too bad. And if I am going to break down, I hope it is during a real adventure, and not just a harbor cruise.
 
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iambronado

Newbie
Dec 31, 2021
18
1
30
Elk Grove
Name
Jake
Boat Name
Hobie Revo
I question whether tow insurance is a good investment, at least not for a boat that is well maintained and reliable. I haven't had tow insurance since my trailer boat days (and those boats were not reliable so insurance at that time may have been worthwhile), and that was over 30 years ago. I also haven't needed a tow in all that time. I figure that the money I saved over the years, invested at an 8% return (and all of my marginal dollars are invested and my average return is higher than that, but not everyone has my investment opportunities) has a compounded value today of over $12K. Now, you might say that ignores tax, although I do favor sheltered and deferred tax investments, but even assuming I earned only 4% after tax on those saved dollars, it is still over $6K saved. Moreover, my boat policy provides tow coverage -- and much better coverage than Boat US, which basically limits coverage to something like 100 miles out of their covered ports. So, a breakdown at Cortez bank or most of the Mexican offshore banks would not be covered. My boat policy provides coverage throughout my nav limits, which is as far offshore as I want to go, and as far south as Panama, and Alaska in the Pacific (but not the Bering Sea). There is a deductible, but not too bad. And if I am going to break down, I hope it is during a real adventure, and not just a harbor cruise.
Thats great information. Do you mind sharing who your boat policy is through? I don't have boat insurance, but something like that could kill two birds with one stone. I maintain as best as I can, but the boat has a 2001 ficht on it, a notorious problem motor forsure. I have had zero issues, knock on wood, I figure if it made it this long its one of the good ones.
As well maintained as things go, it just takes one weird incident to make insurance worth it. Had my duramax blow an inaccesible coolant hose last year in Yosemite. AAA covered the 100+ mile tow back home, which would have probably been over 1000 bucks. I don't mind paying for piece of mind!
 
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ZMF

Newbie
Dec 5, 2018
92
127
45
Central valley
Name
Zenon
Boat Name
Wellcraft
I think BoatUS is a good deal, especially the peace of mind while on the water. They also offer road towing and will haul your vehicle and boat/trailer. I don’t think AAA will tow your trailer usually.
 
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MYNomad

Heading South
Dec 12, 2007
4,748
6,274
Pacific Northwest / West Coast Mexico
Name
Rick
Boat Name
Yes
Thats great information. Do you mind sharing who your boat policy is through? I don't have boat insurance, but something like that could kill two birds with one stone. I maintain as best as I can, but the boat has a 2001 ficht on it, a notorious problem motor forsure. I have had zero issues, knock on wood, I figure if it made it this long its one of the good ones.
As well maintained as things go, it just takes one weird incident to make insurance worth it. Had my duramax blow an inaccesible coolant hose last year in Yosemite. AAA covered the 100+ mile tow back home, which would have probably been over 1000 bucks. I don't mind paying for piece of mind!
It is Lloyds, and it is an "agreed value" policy. I believe most agreed value policies will include towing (and pollution, etc.), even though boat policies issued by auto policy companies often will not.
 
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hbouldin1216

I Should Upgrade My Account
May 10, 2012
1,625
1,462
Lodi, CA
Name
Henry Bouldin
Boat Name
14 Gregor - Tinacious
With all due respect Mr. Nomad, your yacht and sheltered investment opportunities is a comparison that applies to a tiny fraction of posters here and is not at all relevant to a guy fishing a Ficht-powered 21 footer. OP, pay the $200 and go fish, maybe Mr. Nomad can hook you up with some investment advice to save towards a four stroke.
 
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iambronado

Newbie
Dec 31, 2021
18
1
30
Elk Grove
Name
Jake
Boat Name
Hobie Revo
With all due respect Mr. Nomad, your yacht and sheltered investment opportunities is a comparison that applies to a tiny fraction of posters here and is not at all relevant to a guy fishing a Ficht-powered 21 footer. OP, pay the $200 and go fish, maybe Mr. Nomad can hook you up with some investment advice to save towards a four stroke.
Made me lol! I will end up with a towing service this year. Ficht has been problem free for me, I always figured it has been around for 22 years, if it was gonna blow up it would have a long time ago. Saving for the four stroke, but the debate will be repower vs bigger boat when the time comes!
 
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TheSandyMandy

Newbie
Mar 12, 2022
28
76
59
Millbrae
Name
Brett
Boat Name
TheSandyMandy
I’ve been at both ends of the row rope. I’ve towed and been towed, in my opinion it’s part of boating. I have BoatUS insurance and they’ve served me well. Quality boats and qualified captains.

Additionally, you should carry a quality rope on board capable of towing your boat (the guy helping you may not have one) and a bridal (for lack of a better word) to attach to your transom, if you are in the position to help someone in need. You want to be able divide the towing pressure on your transom when possible.

You just never know!

Brett
 
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pgangler

12Wt
Jul 25, 2012
508
528
Pacific Grove, Calif
Name
Ron
Boat Name
Was Cabo35, now GW Gulfstream
On my first boat, I was down off the coast of Ensenada, heading back to San Diego one Sunday, when I got a weak "mayday" call. We found a 21' cuddy cabin with 3 guys onboard, and their motor had quit. They were 30 miles from Ensenada and 70 miles from San Diego, and they were trying to hail CG San Diego! With my bigger boat (Cabo 35), we were able to act as go between and the CG connected them to BoatUS, who said they would send out a tow. CG told us that if they were in good shape, we could leave the scene. Seas/winds were low, so we passed them some water and kept on our way to San Diego. 2 hours later, we passed the TowBoat headed the opposite direction on our exact tract. I called later to find out that they were picked up and the TowBoat took them to Ensenada.
A well-maintained boat certainly reduces the risk of needing service, but it doesn't prevent it. For $100 or $120/yr, I'd never leave port without it. That's just an IQ test for a recreational boater.
 
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