Selling tuna bellies off charter/sport caught fish.. legal?

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  1. carrie's bait boy

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    Bullshit!!! You use a tuna loin for bait, you get blondes with no bellies!
     
  2. FVSerenity

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    If you have a business license and seafood/shellfish handling license through the State, you could sell the Tuna Bellies off your boat or in a "professional location". Backdoor wholesale to the end user. It happens all the time. I think it would be hard to sell large volume of bellies as most canneries have production for bi product, either going over seas, pet food consumption or other places. If you are looking for fresh egg sales, contact a local processing plant that buys salmon from fisherman. Usually they have to sell in bulk and its going to Sushi restaurants. But sometimes you can buy fresh skein on eggs for bait. They may be even interested in buying your eggs, once again, you would need a wholesale/sellers license, and specifically a salmon license. Cant back up the Grady White to a processing plant and get a check cut right then and there. If someone offers that deal, run, because there is probably something shady afoot.
     
  4. namumac

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    I wonder if Milt, Dave and Robbie know this
     
  5. HavasuSun

    HavasuSun Well-Known "Member"

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    Confront the seller! Don’t be a tattletale!
     
  6. Elkfins

    Elkfins Ungrateful Prick

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    My guess is that he has a freezer full of albacore bellies and is wondering if he can sell them... Halibut season is approaching and they make the best halibut bait of all.
     
  7. mrfish11

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    There are no halibut in WA. He is referring to Canada, Oregon and Alaska halibut only. You're welcome for the clarification.
     
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  8. TexMojoII

    TexMojoII Well, Shit!

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    Only native halibut which are forbidden for white eyes to catch for sustenance.
     
  9. xtshawytscha

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    Just looking for clarification because it's a little tough to find a solid answer on this. Commercial tuna license = HMS permit correct? And then the reseller license is through wdfw?
     
  10. Fish Slapper

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    Guys I know you can sell them off commercially caught tuna.... I was curious if anyone knows for sure if you can do it off tuna that were caught on a sport fishing trip. Let’s say you run a charter and keep the bellies from customers tuna then sell them to people as bait and keep the profit.... personally I think it’s illegal but trying to find out for sure. For the record I do not have a freezer full and anyone who fishes with me knows they are given their bellies unless they say they do not want them... I even offer the carks to them if they want ... it’s their fish...the same goes with egg skeins.
     
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    don't sell out my sand dab bait..........
     
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    It would male no sense it being legal its part of the fish, any fish sold would have had to have a fish ticket, So a licence would be required.
     
  13. TunaHore

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    My interpretation of the law is that it is complicated. Mark, remember when you fished Tuna Commercially and it was illegal to cut fish before selling? There is your rule.

    https://agr.wa.gov/Marketing/SmallFarm/greenbook/docs/27.pdf

    Specifically.
    Fish and Shellfish Processing and HACCP If you cut, clean, freeze, smoke, cook or otherwise prepare your fish or fishery products (including shellfish) for sale, then you are considered a “fish processor” and will need to obtain a WSDA Food Processor License. In addition, a WDFW Wholesale Fish Dealer’s License (described above) is required for commercial fish processors. Food safety hazards must be controlled when handling raw fish and shellfish or processing fish or shellfish. State and federal laws require that all handlers and processors assess their operations to identify any critical food safety hazards that are not addressed by Standard Sanitation Operating Procedures (SSOPs). If after conducting a hazard analysis, one or more critical food safety hazards are present, then you are required to develop and implement a Hazard Analysis Critical Control Point (HACCP) Plan that is species and process specific for your operation. Two different agencies regulate fish and shellfish HACCP requirements. • For fresh, raw fish and processed fish and shellfish product, contact WSDA Food Safety Program at (360) 902-1876 or visit www.agr.wa.gov/FoodAnimal/FoodProcessors/HACCP.aspx.


    So- yup....illegal
     
  14. TunaHore

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    Cutting the fish is a big no-no, before sale without a commercial fish processor license - and an appropriate facility approved by the Department of Health
     
  15. fishnazzi

    fishnazzi Mostly just LURKING anymore...........

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    Why would anyone sell bellies for bait. Best part of the albacore to eat. Throw them on the grill .... medium heat when they are done.... eat. No seasoning or anything needed.
     
  16. Fish Slapper

    Fish Slapper I would love to be your Captain for a day!

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    For pure profit obviously
     
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  17. fishnazzi

    fishnazzi Mostly just LURKING anymore...........

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    Aint enough.....
     
  18. wils

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    I can hear the judge now...….

    You're only selling part of the fish. Ok. Which part of the sentence would you like - the fine? or the time?
     
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    The ultimate sand dab catching machine.. the Julia C

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    I love the dab spotting chair.....for dab jumpers....be safe
     
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