San Juanito Isla fishing

trock

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Does anyone know why the American boats (Apollo, Constitution, Success) don't fish near Island San Juanito? I just see the Marla boats fish there and they were always productive near that island.
 

kev2004

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Does anyone know why the American boats (Apollo, Constitution, Success) don't fish near Island San Juanito? I just see the Marla boats fish there and they were always productive near that island.
They do fish there depending on conditions. We just got back from there on Sunday and San Juanito was not very productive. In fact, I think the success checked it out. We, fortunately, found good fishing south of there
 

karlk1125

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Does anyone know why the American boats (Apollo, Constitution, Success) don't fish near Island San Juanito? I just see the Marla boats fish there and they were always productive near that island.
What manny said. It’s not legal to fish there but the locals still do. I was with the osunas and got boarded by the prison guards and we just had to give them some ‘gifts’. American boats can’t take the same risks that the locals can.
 

RFerguson04

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I heard you can fish there with a hard to acquire permit. I don't think boats like the Constitution, Appollo and others go down there every year for the last decade or more stay for 6 months in PV and just hope that they don't get caught fishing that area over and over. Maybe they do and don't have a permit, but it seems like a risky way to run your livelyhood.

The real illegal activity is the occasional commercial boat sneaking in and rounding up multi ton wrapps of tuna when they're supposed to be 200 kilometers plus out...
 
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trock

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What manny said. It’s not legal to fish there but the locals still do. I was with the osunas and got boarded by the prison guards and we just had to give them some ‘gifts’. American boats can’t take the same risks that the locals can.
 

eddiefishtaco

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Shhh Leave Juanito's tuna alone. Go fish at Puerto Vallarta
 

Charlie Plum

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I can comment first hand. I was on a long range party boat in April just a couple weeks ago and we were boarded by the prison officials and escorted into the prison marina at 10pm at night. they made all the customers get off the boat and produce our passports. We were reprimanded by the Marines, Navy,Prison Officials, and Federal police. They took our passports for photo copies and took mugshots of all the passengers and crew. this went on until 3;30am. Finally they released the crew off the dock and we were allowed to go. They told us not to return within 12 miles of the island . It ruined the fishing for the trip , not to mention the mood of the fisherman and the qulity of sleep. On a 3.5 trip the boat caught one tuna. The rest of the trip was like fishing in the desert. it may have been all pomp and circumstance but they told the captain the next time they would confiscate the boat, prosecute the crew, and take the clients to Mazatlán and drop them off to fend for themselves. Fun trip.
 
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jplant

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Break the law in your hometown.Respect all the laws here in Mexican waters.Who could be proud of catching illegal fish .Nothing sportsman would do.
 
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karlk1125

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I can comment first hand. I was on a long range party boat in April just a couple weeks ago and we were boarded by the prison officials and escorted into the prison marina at 10pm at night. they made all the customers get off the boat and produce our passports. We were reprimanded by the Marines, Navy,Prison Officials, and Federal police. They took our passports for photo copies and took mugshots of all the passengers and crew. this went on until 3;30am. Finally they released the crew off the dock and we were allowed to go. They told us not to return within 12 miles of the island . It ruined the fishing for the trip , not to mention the mood of the fisherman and the qulity of sleep. On a 3.5 trip the boat caught one tuna. The rest of the trip was like fishing in the desert. it may have been all pomp and circumstance but they told the captain the next time they would confiscate the boat, prosecute the crew, and take the clients to Mazatlán and drop them off to fend for themselves. Fun trip.
Very interested to know which boat this is. This could have a long term impact on the fishery
 

Charlie Plum

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well I left that out in respect to their business. I will only say they had to of known the danger or consequences and ultimately it is the captains responsibility. I was ignorant to the fact that there was any issue to where we were fishing. I had no idea and it came as a surprise. I won't go out on that boat again. The crew worked hard and I tipped them. Very poor decision making on the Captains part.
 

Charlie Plum

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Break the law in your hometown.Respect all the laws here in Mexican waters.Who could be proud of catching illegal fish .Nothing sportsman would do.
I can respect that. Especially in todays political climate. I understand the Mexicans would probably enjoy giving the Gringos a hard time. Ultimately on any boat the Captain is responsible for the actions. I had no control over those decisions. I paid for a Tuna fishing charter and left the rest up to the Captain and crew. The anglers certainly weren't at fault.
 

karlk1125

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I can respect that. Especially in todays political climate. I understand the Mexicans would probably enjoy giving the Gringos a hard time. Ultimately on any boat the Captain is responsible for the actions. I had no control over those decisions. I paid for a Tuna fishing charter and left the rest up to the Captain and crew. The anglers certainly weren't at fault.
Was the captain fishing close in to San Juanito or the 3rd island?
 

Charlie Plum

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Was the captain fishing close in to San Juanito or the 3rd island?
The prison island. Which ever one that is. Yes we got in pretty close. A local panguero came up and gave us shit for being there. I speak fairly fluent Spanish and I could tell he wasn't happy. I suspect that started the chain reaction.
 
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karlk1125

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The prison island. Which ever one that is. Yes we got in pretty close. A local panguero came up and gave us shit for being there. I speak fairly fluent Spanish and I could tell he wasn't happy. I suspect that started the chain reaction.
Thats fucking idiotic by the captain. Not even the locals get close to the third island. The captain was basically begging for his boat to be impounded, very lucky he didnt.
 

John Argiso

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It's not just the gringo's!! Marla's left out the part when they all got taken in and processed in the latest "Mas Cows" post!! You play, you pay! And fish are off the second island. Far enough off that it shoudn't be an issue
 
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Warlord

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There are individuals who scour all the reports looking for things that make the San Diego fleet look bad - pictures with fish in areas that are off limits, decks full of fish that seem overkill, anglers bragging about their total catch, etc.

If the fleet doesn’t show more respect for the Mexican regulations, we may see access to more areas denied. Not a lot of other places to go! If it gets too bad, theirs and a lot of other businesses will suffer.
 

kevina

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well I left that out in respect to their business. I will only say they had to of known the danger or consequences and ultimately it is the captains responsibility. I was ignorant to the fact that there was any issue to where we were fishing. I had no idea and it came as a surprise. I won't go out on that boat again. The crew worked hard and I tipped them. Very poor decision making on the Captains part.
What was the last 3 letters of the boat name that fished the prison island. I'm going to book a trip next year and I don't need the pucker factor.