RP Knot?

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Abaco

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I'm a once-a-year LR guy. So, about this time each year I sit out by my pool with what little spare time I have and practice knots to get ready for my upcoming trip. The past few years I have been using the Bob Sands knot to connect fluoro to braid. It's fairly involved for a schlub like me but it holds like steel. So, I was going over my notes the past few days and stumbled upon the Royal Polaris knot (also John Collins). Does anybody know how that one holds up in terms of strength? It's a good-looking knot that looks pretty simple. I remember seeing Frank demonstrate this one at a demo at the one LR shop we had up here in Sacotamotoes (shop long gone now).
 
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I will be using it. It is quick and easy to tie, and has a small profile. At FH this year, Lo Prieste taught it at his seminars, so that is a pretty good recommendation.
 
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If it's good enough for John Collins........;)
 
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Been using the RP for years. tuna up to 95 on #40. Works for me.
 
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The JC (RP) knot is not recommended for line over 60# test. It's fine for the lighter stuff, easy to tie and very low profile. Here's something maybe even John Collins himself doesn't know about the JC knot...A single drop of Tac glue on the JC knot and you can use it on the heavy stuff.
 
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Thanks for the prompt feedback, guys. I'll give it a whirl.
 
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I don't get why the JC knot or improved Albright would be weaker than the Bob Sands or Toy Pena since isn't the wrap part of it the part that actually ties the spectra to the flouro? I thought that the first knot on the Bob Sands was essentially to hold the the thing together to make the multiple wraps, ie not that important
 
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I don't get why the JC knot or improved Albright would be weaker than the Bob Sands or Toy Pena since isn't the wrap part of it the part that actually ties the spectra to the flouro? I thought that the first knot on the Bob Sands was essentially to hold the the thing together to make the multiple wraps, ie not that important
I have pulled on the Bob Sands knot like a shaved ape (see photo) many times and am impressed by its strength.
 
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ask the deckhands what they prefer when you get on the boat some like the tony pena others the bob sands I like the jc knot for my light stuff >40 never had a problem
get a 1/2" dowel rod rap with flex rap 8" is plenty long enough so you can pull the knot solid and they store easy in your tackle box. have a good trip
flex rap will keep it from slipping
 
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The JC knot is strong but IMHO the bob sands knot is superior (although harder to learn). If you already know how to tie it I wouldn't switch especially if you have a chance at bigger fish. Have caught multiple tuna over 100lb on it. Plus the tag end sits better for casting.
 
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The JC (RP) knot is not recommended for line over 60# test. It's fine for the lighter stuff, easy to tie and very low profile. Here's something maybe even John Collins himself doesn't know about the JC knot...A single drop of Tac glue on the JC knot and you can use it on the heavy stuff.

So with the tac glue, would you use the JC knot on line over 60#??
 
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Tied up some knots in my poolside session and that RP knot goes together really simply. Maybe I'll put a Bob Sands on my 80# rig.

Looking forward to putting the wood to some fatties next week. Praying to the tuna gods for some slob yellowfin...
 
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    I'm a once-a-year LR guy. So, about this time each year I sit out by my pool with what little spare time I have and practice knots to get ready for my upcoming trip. The past few years I have been using the Bob Sands knot to connect fluoro to braid. It's fairly involved for a schlub like me but it holds like steel. So, I was going over my notes the past few days and stumbled upon the Royal Polaris knot (also John Collins). Does anybody know how that one holds up in terms of strength? It's a good-looking knot that looks pretty simple. I remember seeing Frank demonstrate this one at a demo at the one LR shop we had up here in Sacotamotoes (shop long gone now).


    Think that would be the Roy Rose knot which is different then the Bob Sands knot.
     
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    Good luck on your trip, Dave. Have fun and land some!!

    Tied up some knots in my poolside session and that RP knot goes together really simply. Maybe I'll put a Bob Sands on my 80# rig.

    Looking forward to putting the wood to some fatties next week. Praying to the tuna gods for some slob yellowfin...
     
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    Steve K

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    Think that would be the Roy Rose knot which is different then the Bob Sands knot.

    Brad, the "Roy Rose" is just a Surgeon's loop, for fishing a dropper loop. Not a knot for connecting braid to mono or fluorocarbon.
     
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    hell no....
    ask the deckhands what they prefer when you get on the boat some like the tony pena others the bob sands I like the jc knot for my light stuff >40 never had a problem
    get a 1/2" dowel rod rap with flex rap 8" is plenty long enough so you can pull the knot solid and they store easy in your tackle box. have a good trip
    flex rap will keep it from slipping

    For the people that want to do this, there are couple of products out there that are easily obtainable and much cheaper than flex wrap. 3M makes a cold shrink product and there is heat shrink available in most electrical supply places.

    if you have access to a rod wrapping shop you can usually get some small scraps of flex wrap, but if not check out the others. Its a great tool to have, just make a few and put them in your bag. and if your bunk mate is that guy just put a condom on one and leave it on his pillow, that should keep him out of the stateroom the rest of the trip... chocolate syrup is optional!
     
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